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+TLT -selling near term OTM covered calls for steady income - good strategy?
On what timeframe does the bond market price interest rate changes in?
What do you guys think? SQQQ and TLT?
Inherited a bit of money, any good advice?
Thoughts on buying TLT now that JPow said rate cuts are on the table?
Risk free and guaranteed high return investment?
TLT Options Play / FED Cut Early Mid 24? / Vix Low
Is it the right time to invest in long-term bonds?
Is there a way to realize gains in one stock and move those realized gains into another stock without being taxed?
Investing in a treasury bond ETF a good idea? Please advise and don't make me talk to boomers at r/bonds
Why long-duration, low-coupon treasury bonds are about to return 25%
Why would a long term investor buy stocks rather than long term bonds, currently?
Potential 6 Month Trade on TLT Targeting >14% Annualized Return
what's the point of tlt if it's just as volatile as stocks
TLT covered call(buy-write) will yield around 14%. Is this a good place to park money I won't need for 3 years?
I made a free theta gang options group. Trying to build a community of non degenerates
Just made a 10K loan to gamble in bonds
Oil Tanker Stock Investors vs TLT Bag Holders
Powell will Powell the Economy + Bond ETFs for 🏳️🌈 🐻
Powell will Powell the Economy + Why I'm buying TLT as a 🏳️🌈 🐻
how to maximize Exposure to interest rate movements with bonds ?
Rates are not high and the market is not crashing especially when Apple is still near ATH and not $120.
Generational buying opportunity on TLT
How Do Bond ETFs Work, and What Happens to the Principal at Maturity
Why is the yield and SEC 30 day yield of TLT so different? Which one tells you the annualized rate of the next dividend?
Find most correlated stock to TLT (treasury bond)
10Y Bonds at 4.8% Are Attractive,Especially Now
What if WSB could ignite the spark that sends $TLT parabolic?
Expected moves this week: SPY, QQQ, TLT, USO and earnings from Citi, JP Morgan, Wells and more.
With the sky high Bond Yields would it be a good idea to buy US Treasury Bond ETFs right now?
$70k Puts QQQ: The World Will Burn Edition
Is it finally, finally, finally time for TLT / long dated treasuries?
Are TLT Leaps so cheap they are worth it?
30 year US treasury yield is much better than TLT which has avg maturity of 25 years
Considering Long Duration Bonds as an Opportunity
Is TLT Hitting its Bottom? My Play for the Upcoming Rebound.
Putted 20k in bonds and down -20%
Looking for a Simple Backtest Analysis to Do. Any Ideas?
Wall Street Newsletter S03E02: Four Research papers from Jackson Hole Symposium 2023.
How to get rid of my trading habit to invest properly! Fear of losing the money!!
Doesn’t need to make sense needs to make money
Boomers Getting Flushed With Their "Balanced" Portfolios
Why is TLT still falling despite disinflation, looming recession fears and China deflation (exporting it to RoW).
Wall Street Week Ahead for the trading week beginning August 14th, 2023
Increasing order of risk. IEI < HYG < JNK < TLT 😂
Just sold all my VOO and QQQ to put 90% in TLT and 10% in Bitcoin. Am I dumb?
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If you want to go long haul ETFs, you can spread it around to different ETFs to reduce risk. VDC, GLTR, SGOV, TLT, etc. Just keep adding shares when you can. There's also the dependable monsters if you want some individual stocks - Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Coke, etc. I'm doing my "gambling" by grabbing 1000 shares of cheap stocks in the hope that they blow up years from now. RKLB and ASTS is what I went with - but I'm willing to sit and forget on those as well. If it doesn't pan out, that investment now shouldn't kill me come retirement, you know? You're young and willing to acknowledge mistakes, so you should be fine.
Looks like TLT is gap filling CPI spike as yields are back to rising. Imagine if equities were to follow - there'd be bodies raining from wall street
Should have sold my TLT calls yesterday. ;(
Anyone betting on TLT? Looks like it is about to break out of the DTL. Was thinking of gambling on 100C 7/19 for .15. Any thoughts?
I’d sell and load up on $TLT or $TMF
naked puts are only available on margin accounts. i do them really selected and on low volatile tickers. right now im laddering up leaps puts for jan 2025 on TLT with about 15 delta, really low margin requirements due to long dte and big difference from spot price to strike price. i‘m thinking about selling leaps puts on mag 7 but everything seems expensive at the moment.
TLT climbing back up slowly to $100+
Long SOX, QQQ, XLU, XLF and TLT it will print 
TLT baby.... Buy Jan 2026 calls and go to sleep for a while... After rate cuts... You can wake up to easy money gains 😜 You can easily map out TLT's price relative to interest rates. We probably aren't going back to 0%... but 3% within two years is reasonable.
Guys pick the stocks with the highest volume. That’s how stocks go up! Look the the volume on FFIE. it’s insane! Also in SLNA and WKHS. PLENTY of room to be in more than 1 penny stock. Also long as TLT keeps flying (should go to at least 100 after a cool CPI) , these stocks have a long runway. Lower rates, lower debt, more FOMO, degens go nuts
im betting rate cut in december  TLT
Fuck.. might have to eat shit on the TLT 93c weeklies I sold...
Yields crashing, TLT getting hornier by the minute 
IBTO is a dated bond fund.. (Dec 2033) TLT is always 20-year bonds fund. they sell less dated maturities to buy longer dated maturities so this is not a long term hold as opposed to IBTO which should reach to its full value by maturity (dec 2033) TLT is not marginable for 30 days which is why I play with SCHQ, TLT has more liquidity and the options are also liquid. no options on SCHQ. TLT exp ratio 0.15%, SCHQ 0.03%
TLT all day e'ryday! Oh and WMT Calls 5/24 63
Would hang on to TLT given its bottomed out. Re: The rest, 1) review the tax implications of selling (presuming this is recent enough you have a near zero liability at this point) 2) if no bother, sell up and dump into VTI / VXUS (80/20 spread), just as a holding pattern until you figure out next steps. 3) start thinking about your investment goals and projected thesis on how the world will be when you get to your drawdown timeline (large purchase / retirement etc), overweight in those sectors. If you don’t feel confident doing that, just sit at number 2 and only check in once a year ————————————————— 4) rebalance when TLT grows from interest rate reductions and aim for bonds being a small chunk of your portfolio. There’s varying ‘rules’ to follow, but you can start with 5% (presuming 20s/30s age range), linearly moving to 25% as you hit retirement.
Ohhh yes ODTE . Making the seller rich one regard at a time. We’ve mostly all been there. Don’t worry about it. You have $900 left. Put it on your highest conviction trade that has weeks of play in it. Wait a few days so your emotions are out of it. No options. If it was me….I’d wait for a pull back in TMF (leveraged TLT) and put it there. Plus you get a divy. Go slow and no emotions on this. You could claw yourself back.
Someone here said something similar a year ago. And TLT didn't do shit.
Earnings thus far are slightly above average 78%beating expectations vs an average of 76%, beating Revenue beats are only hitting 50%, more than 20% below average. Infact the worst revenue beat rate since 2008. Why? Corporations earning growth is driven by cutting costs, not growing revenue. What happens when we see cost cutting across the board? Think about it Long TLT you dolts
Bruh what? TLT is not a stock, it's a bond. Hold on to it, don't juggle things around. You have them because someone kept it for this long and that requires discipline. I suggest you bring that discipline into you too.
TLT isnt a stock, its the 20y+ US gov bond etf... - I think its a good time now to hold TLT - in fact, I just ramped up my position size today after the CPI and retail sales reading! Be sure you understand what you have / buy before your doing anything Gl!
4700 shares. Fuck it. Long term account? All TLT. trading account? All TLT
Earnings are at a beat rate of 78%. Just a shade above average. Revenue is only beating at 50%, 20% below normal and the lowest since 2008 You need to ask yourself WHY Earnings growth is fueled by massive cuts in spending. What happens when we see massive cuts in spending? Long TLT you fools.
TLT was the real meme stock
"Yeah Ill write TLT calls" fucking spikes by 1%. Though I think the optimism towards rate cuts will undo a lot of that
TLT looks ready to go, gold looks ready to go i think inflation data can surprise to downside
TLT lookin cheap right now
TLT aka long duration US treasuries. These are known as a “flight to safety” asset and investors repeatedly demonstrate a pattern of flooding into this asset class during crises and pumping up the price. With long rates where they are it’s a great time to build a position. I moved 20% of my portfolio in TLT in the last month.
Puts on meme stocks... no positions means no real reason to keep valuations that high. TLT calls after CPI is in line or slightly lower. Calls on QQQ too.
Good luck. 10y yield went down 8 bp. TLT close to a monthly high. The move in yields down this past month is a big factor in the meme stock rally. If CPI is in line or better than expected we are ripping higher across the board.
Yield curve has been inverted for almost two years. Stocks did OK. Bonds are down (long term bonds are down 14% in past year, see TLT; intermediate term down about 5% past year, see SCHR). It's just really, really, hard to know what do; conventional wisdom says diversify across asset classes setting the allocation to the different classes based on your time horizon.
TLT is really letting it spray today
TLT on LOD but keep buying
TLT, up to my balls in it. Not doing anything exciting
Looking out the window with my yearly TLT calls at all you people having fun outside.
TLT green after that PPI number is a bit confusing
TLT puts babyyyyy they better cut them rates
TLT like “guess I’ll die”
TLT and AAPL fading not good for power hour
No TLT you're so sexy don't kill yourself
Fair question, but FXI, and TLT are also correlating with EFA and then there is GLD. It is just transference. Sell high, buy low. Has nothing to do with politics.
For me was combination of O and MAIN plus with on TLT and covered call and Buywrite Strategy ETF(for me just buy them for enchaned the yield of cashflow,as combination of TLT and TLTW
If you don’t buy TLT don’t bitch in here when the fed pivots and you miss out on 50% 
don’t think i’ll ever see TLT mentioned in this sub what a world we live in
Can’t see shit. What’s TLT at in futures rn?
TLT is not a place to park cash. It's a high risk investment. SGOV and BIL are examples of ETFs to park cash.
I agree this this view. However, I will say that there is another risk with TLT which is that short rates come down and long rates (more demand driven) stay roughly where they are. Only in that instance do I not see a great outlook for long term bonds here, especially in strategic asset classes.
Puts on TLT would be a decent substitute if you don't have a futures account, yes.
The longer the duration of the bonds held in the fund the greater the return would be should rates drop. But, it also increases risk. An example is a bond fund (say TLT) with about a 20 year duration bonds. If rates drop 1% it should rise in value about 20%. If rates go up 1%, it would lose about 20% value. And, if rates stay unchanged you can collect that sweet 4.6% yield (which is not too bad) while you wait for something to happen. A 5 year duration bond would be 5% up/down in the same situation (rates up or down 1%). 2 year duration would be 2%, etc. All values approximate. The point is, you have to understand your appetite for risk and then select bond duration (if you are using bonds for capital gains instead of as fixed income where you would hold for the duration) People were "YOLO TLT" a year ago and it is down 12.5% for the year. Just make sure you understand bond duration and associated risk.
TLT hit a 20-year low last fall, around 82. IMHO it could dip lower from here (90ish) in the short-medium term, but it’s still dirt cheap, and could easily go up 50% once the Fed starts cutting. Of course if inflation gets out of hand and the 10-year goes to 7 - or 10, or god help us 15 like it was in the late 70s, it could get much cheaper.
TLT, VGLT, EDV, etc
TLT - Because the pain makes me real.
Yea Hong Kong makes it tough. You can build a ladder with any duration though and some brokerages you can set it up to auto repurchase that duration. Additionally there’s ETFs like ibtf, ibte, sgov, TLT that you can build out similarly. Personally I think going long yen with FXY or ycl is pretty attractive right now I’d be curious what the arbitrage with the yuan and yen is compared to USD
IWM & TLT: “nah it’s cool we LIKE dumpsters”
You guys trying to figure out news events are playing a losing game. Most of the larger funds are playing probabilities, earnings projections and the direction of the 10-year bond. If rates are falling, bullish, if they're going up bearish. We know the projected targets for CPI and CPE over the next 3 months look pretty good, like we should have falling numbers right? So you position in front of the news to come, you don't wait for it to happen. There could easily be another correction if things soften more than expected and we start to see earnings fall, if that happens your bonds are going to rally which will give you money to use to buy the stocks on sale. Extremely good argument to be at least 20% in TLT right now and that's why
Yeah TLT is only down like 40% in the last two years
I have been plating TLT on and off since last year. I'm already there.
Faaak I hate when that happens. I did the same damn thing with my TLT calls on Fed day eventhough I knew better. Smh
Waiting patiently to get another TLT yearly call at ask. I am the only buyer 🤓
Missed the opening RDDT puts play, so naturally, I take the top comment at the time and research the next. Happened to be TLT puts for 5/10. Does this earn me my "blind regarded play" WSB merit badge?
TLT odte puts before 1300 gonna print
I think a big trader had a trading error around 8 am today does anyone else see wierd piece and volume activity at around d 8am today? If you draw a 5 minute bar the high of that bar is much higher than the surrounding bars you can see this in TLT TSLA XBI UVIX and others
No worries at all, I love talking about this stuff. I've been doing this shit for years now and learned a lot of lessons that way. Always glad to share/discuss To your first point, the simple answer is, you don't. It's the same as selling a stock while it's running up and watching it run up even more or selling a stock that's falling and watching it recover afterwards. You will feel sick if it's a lot of money left on the table but as the saying goes "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush". Think about how much worse it would feel if the opposite of what happened had happened. What if you didn't sell at all and the stock reversed and you just lost a lot of money by sitting idle and not doing anything? It's always easy to look back in hindsight and say you should have done something different after knowing how things would have played out. But just because the good outcome could have been better doesn't mean you were wrong for choosing the good outcome. Never doubt yourself when you come out ahead. The name of the game is profit, not becoming an overnight millionaire. I've exited tons of plays way too early over the years that have made me sick. If you want an example of one that still haunts me to this day, here you go lol: * I sold these 500 GME shares in March 2020 that I had bought in Feb 2020 cause I thought the stock was oversold and overshorted for a nice 20-30% gain at $3.64. The stock proceeded to >100x over the course of the following months because of the WSB/roaring kitty insanity that I could never have seen coming. I could have been selling calls/the shares themselves and been retired by now off that 1 play had I held. But how tf was I supposed to know that was going to happen lol? I was literally in and out of the play before roaring kitty even made his first post based off the same thesis he had. Only difference is I didn't make posts about it or have the backing of millions of wsb regards at the time lmao 😂😭 If you ever feel like you sold too early and regret not waiting and making even more money, I urge you to come back to this post and look at that image. Sometimes, unpredictable shit happens and it hurts, but you just have to move on to the next one and leave it in the rearview. There's always more plays to be had and dwelling on the past only messes with your ability to make good plays in the future. About 1 month after this play, I had my biggest ever options win with a combination of spy put spreads and TLT calls that ended up gaining 1600% and 18000% (respectively). I sold most of those way too early but I have a screenshot of the last few I still had the day i sold the last of em: OK I know this comment is getting way too long now so I'll try to address your 2nd question quickly here. Yes, it sucks when you buy a stock and sell calls only to find it dropping past where you profited off the premium. So how do you play this? The way I do it is by adhering to 2 rules: 1- Never buy 100s of shares of a company you'd have issue owning 100s of shares of regardless of price fluxtuations. Simple. Don't go buying some shit penny stock or the latest no-name pumping stock to try this method on cause chances are you'll get stuck bagholding and losing money on it while feeling shitty that you don't even like/know the company. That's why the example I listed in my post above mentioned my doing this with RDDT. I don't mind having hundreds of Reddit shares at a valuation of 6-8Bn. Matter of fact, if I could have thousands of em right now I would. I love them long term. 2- Only sell calls when you are both already up on the underlying stock position AND the stock has recently made a big move up causing the calls to be temporarily mispriced (due to a combination of volatility and unexpected move up). Once the upward momentum premium is baked into the call price, you'll get much more bang for your buck from selling it and it would take a much bigger move down to put you in that position you mentioned Side-Note: if you have the ability to sell multiple calls, don't sell them all at once. Space them out in case the price gets more attractive a day or 2 later. Example: I sold calls on half my Reddit shares when the stock first went to the 50s after IPO then sold the calls on the other half when it proceeded to go even crazier and ran to the 60s the day or 2 after. It ended up averaging to a really nice selling price overall that way. Anyway, sorry about the wall of text lol. Like I said, I love talking about this stuff hahaha. Lmk if you have any other questions
Sold everything and got TLT calls for next year. I’ll end up holding for maybe 2 days before selling and buy some 0dte shit
Damn, TLT dividend hit for last month. $523
Check TLT chart Oct thru Nov of 2021 we had same shit back then
This is final trap for bond bulls en route to TLT 95 after that they get bitchslapped like a mofo
Pardon me for not replying sooner. I began my sellputsthencalls strategy upon retirement from Fidelity in 2017. With about 85-90% of my IRA. Initially versus 4 ETFs (DIA, EFA, EEM & TLT), then versus XLE, & for the last 2 years versus SPY. Exclusively using monthlies until 2 months ago when I began weeklies. I'd say the returns are consistent. By design, option selling should generally perform versus the underlying's buy & hold, as follows: option selling should do well but underperform the underlying in a thru-the-roof market; outperform a modestly-up, flat & modestly-down market; & outperform an into-the-tank market by losing less than the underlying. Since using weeklies, I've generated premium yield of about 9% annualized, but I also see appreciation & depreciation because of SPY pricing. I want to select strike prices with a 20% chance of assignment, but with SPY being well below my put assignment strike price, I've selected much higher assignment chances for my covered call strike prices. Using monthly statements, I compare my OSS (option selling strategy) to a small amount of FXAIX (S&P 500) that I hold. An example of performance: month ending 3/31/24 -- FXAIX +3.2%, OSS +2.7%. month ending 4/30/24 -- FXAIX -4.2%, OSS -1.4%. 2 months, 2/29/24 to 4/30/24 -- FXAIX -1.1% (-6.5% annualized), OSS +1.3% (+7.7% ann.) YTD thru 4/30/24 -- FXAIX +5.9% (17.7% ann.), OSS +4.2% (+12.6% ann.)
My dumbass bought 91 calls thinking it pump with Williams speaking 🥲. Year out seemed bullish for TLT tho.
TLT please you have more in you.
The doomer "no cuts" cycle is ending and negative economic data is starting to trickle in. 18 months is probably a bit early for peak rate cuts in this cycle (absent a black swan event) but TLT is priced on expectations of future moves, not the moves themselves.
Can you expound on this prediction? What will be causing TLT to go up? I assume you are referring mostly to share value increases. Why do you expect bond prices to go up?
This is the bottom for TLT. Buy it if you're interest in modest ~32% returns over the next 18 months. That's too boring for many here. But many here are regarded.
That's what I mean. TLT chart predicts a brisk drop in rates. That usually means a recession is incoming.
Look at TLT. Inverse SHS incoming. Move should be pretty fast. However there is a risk that this might NOT be good for stocks.
TLT sold 0.5% in an hour, I suspect things will turn to the downside today. Too much optimism after the jobs number, it’s still pretty likely that inflation will be hot. Market won’t get wreck-less before CPI.
I'm all in on US long term treasuries. $TLT CALLs incoming!
Look at TLT and interest rates will go down. What that means for stocks however is not clear because charts suggest a rather quick drop of rates. That usually means recession is incoming. However I am a strong believer that small caps will outperform S&P 500 within the next 3 months.
The TLT has been trading in a positive correlation lately. This has been a little frightening to watch TLT ripping along side the IWM. Amirite?
US equities still the best game in town. I'm out of bonds almost totally except for some TLT as a hedge. Gold has run up pretty far, pretty fast. May be too late for that move. International has been a dog for many years. I doubt you can beat the SP500 or other diversified US funds/ETFs for the foreseeable future, though they may experience a \*temporary\* setback via big correction or even recession. But they always come back even stronger.
I like the New High-New Low Index on Daily and Weekly Charts as well as Stocks above 50 Day MA. The Commitment of Traders Report is the best if your trading Futures, but can also help with TLT, GLD, SLV, USO, and UNG
You need to look at their relationships to SPY. If TLT is up, and DXY is down, SPY is likely in an uptrend. DXY is up, and TLT down? SPY is likely heading down.
What you looking for with TLT and DXY?
I watch TICK, TLT, DXY, and VIX. Between the four, I can usually form a decent, intraday, market thesis.
Prices at Monday open NVDA 900 AMZN 190 AAPL 190 SPY 515 QQQ 440 TLT 91 VIX 12 SQQQ 10
Options are leveraged, but also taxed (most cases. bear with me here) short term. One avenue is to synthetically increase your exposure to gold and TLT and GLD as if you were long those positions. You could use options on futures that are taxed 60%\40%. And you don’t sell your stock. It adds risk and don’t know how comfortable you are with options. Another option is to sell covered calls on your stock to help you with the tax bill (but also add a bit more short capital gain tax). You define the exit price and the quantity, if you hit it, take the profit from both. It would be like DCA-ing in reverse, if you sell little by little. Overall I don’t think there is a better way to rebalance than simply selling stock and buying gold and bonds, and taking the tax hit. All of the above simply adds complexity.
Need TLT at 91.00 today for a 10 bagger