GM

The index only gains because the net value of the top 500 companies in that index goes up. But every company has a life cycle (some have a life cycle of decades or longer, of course). Case in point: Top 10 companies in the S&P 500 50 years ago. Several of these HUGE companies are not even in the 500 index at all (US Steel, Esmark, Armour), and the rest aren't even close to being in the top 10. If you bought GM 50 years ago because it was number 1 in the US, you would have missed out on the entire tech revolution that came with companies like MSFT, GOOG etc coming into the S&P. || || |1|[General Motors](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/563.html)|9,823.5|806.0| |2|[Exxon Mobil](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/496.html)|5,661.4|584.8| |3|[U.S. Steel](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/3633.html)|3,250.4|195.4| |4|[General Electric](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/561.html)|2,959.1|212.6| |5|[Esmark](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/3006.html)|2,510.8|19.1| |6|[Chrysler](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/2876.html)|2,071.6|18.5| |7|[Armour](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/2749.html)|2,056.1|1.6| |8|[Gulf Oil](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/3123.html)|1,705.3|182.8| |9|[Mobil](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/3345.html)|1,703.6|183.8| |10|[DuPont](https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500_archive/snapshots/1955/451.html)|1,687.7|344.4|

Mentions:#GM #MSFT #GOOG

CorrelationVega

35 minutes ago•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

Mentions:#GM #MSFT #GOOG

CorrelationVega

35 minutes ago•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

Mentions:#GM #MSFT #GOOG

parallax_wave

5 hours ago•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

It's the difference between long term profit and short term profit. Cutting costs and giving stock buybacks will jack up the stock price and guarantee the c-level execs fat compensation, so they couldn't give less of a fuck what happens 2-5 years down the road. As far as what these changes do long-term, I think there's plenty of evidence that gutting American workforces eventually weakens the company (IBM, GM, etc)

Mentions:#IBM #GM

UnknownResearchChems

12 hours ago•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Microsoft won't allow them to buy OpenAI and what the hell will they do with GM and intel?

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derprondo

14 hours ago•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Can’t bring myself to buy GM

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doesnamematters

14 hours ago•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

I don't see they shit pants at all. On the opposite, Ford, GM, Mercedes and other brands all announced significant cutback on their EV expansion. The Chinese brand EVs made in China won't flood EU and US market in foreseeable future. EU and US markets won't let them in. And such policy is legit because China has had highest fees and taxes on import vehicles and parts. So EU and US can/should do same toward import Chinese vehicles.

Mentions:#GM #EU

TheYoungLung

17 hours ago•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

iPhone sales are down and this buyback is evidence to me they had no idea how to spend it better. For perspective they could have bought both Ford and GM with 20 billion left over

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not_creative1

17 hours ago•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

You would think they would rather spend that $100 billion acquiring great startups for the future instead. To put what $110 billion means, they could buy all of intel for another $20 billion more. Or, they could buy Ford and GM and still have $30 billion left over.

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stoked_7

19 hours ago•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

We have to be careful comparing ICE to EV. GM and Ford only made up revenue in ICE sales, they lost heavily in EV sales and profit. Ford reported losses of $130,000 per EV sold. Stellantis reported 12% less revenue last quarter. Tesla only has EV, comparing them to ICE/EV/BEV companies is challenging.

Mentions:#ICE #GM

TimeTravelingChris

21 hours ago•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

That isn't true. GM among others have recently crushed sales and earnings.

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Fine_Magician_790

21 hours ago•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Anti-trust lawsuit against Google is not going to end favorably (if the administration changes in November). Prememtive move to offshore infrastructure behind the firewall of a sovereign country and its legal system. GM, Ford, etc. do it in the physical to avoid sticky EPA rules and government labor laws. Google and all the tech "bros" figured out that the model works for privacy (as well as violations considered by the FCC for content restrictions by account holders). Data and information is the new 21st century product, so...why not use a proven model from the 19th century robber barons.

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TigersBeatLions

Yesterday at 1:46 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

In Dec I spoke to a GM of a stellantis dealer in LA. They can't move cars. He said he was paying 70k month just to park cars.

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BobbyGlaze

Yesterday at 5:28 AM•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

It is worth noting that some of those payment plan loans are ways for the company to lower the effective price on something without actually lowering the price. For instance, 2% financing for new GM cars is still available and at that rate, it might be better to be in the market than paying down the loan in a hurry (on average). Or limited time 0% APR credit cards.

Mentions:#GM

crazyyimmy

Yesterday at 2:03 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

the CEO of GM is a Swifty? no wonder that shit sucks

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Mother-Strawberry-72

Yesterday at 9:49 PM•r/pennystocks See CommentSee Original Comment

# PJT Partners NYSE $PJT turns Carvana $CVNA 12/22 to 118/share 5/1/2024 up 31 in after hours. PJT next master piece Fisker $FSRN PJT Partners NYSE $PJT turns Carvana $CVNA 12/22 to 118/share 5/1/2024 up 31 in after hours. PJT next master piece Fisker $FSRN You have just follow both David Dreman, Author of Contrarian Investment Strategies and Warren Buffett Berkshire Hathaway, doctrines Be greedy when Mr. Market is fearful. The fear gauge can not be hirer on Fisker FSR now FSRN. You for $2,000 have increased your FSRN position to 200,000 shares of FSRN. If Paul J. Taubman of NYSE $PJT restructures FSRN for all stakeholders like Carvana $CVNA (5/1/2024 Carvana goes up 30 per share after hours, you could bought CVNA 3.76 12/22 and now it is 118.share). If PJT Partners brings $FSRN share price to $5/share you have turned $2000 + original FSR investment into $1,000,000READ TODAY 4/12/24 PERSPECTIVE Handelsblatt : “Deutsche Bank and PJT are helping us find a strategic partnership” confirmed a Fisker spokesman upon request. Translated from the article in german and there is a paywall : [https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/fisker-letzte-rettung-deutsche-bank-wie-henrik-fisker-das-aus-abwenden-will/100028065.html](https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/fisker-letzte-rettung-deutsche-bank-wie-henrik-fisker-das-aus-abwenden-will/100028065.html) Fisker $FSRN wants to avert the end - and is hoping for Deutsche Bank According to information from Handelsblatt, Fisker is throwing But there is one last lifeline – and it comes from Germany: the company has Deutsche Bank and commissioned the takeover specialist PJT Partners to avert the impending insolvency. “ Deutsche Bank and PJT are helping us find a strategic partnership,” confirmed a Fisker spokesman upon request. PJT Partners NYSE $PJT is Blackstone former workout team lead by Paul J Taubman, CEO DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE PJT they win because they accept deals they are certain to win. See what they did at Carvana $CVNA [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CVNA?.tsrc=fin-srch](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CVNA?.tsrc=fin-srch) from 5/3/2023 share price of 7/share $CVNA hit 90/share 3/26/2024 9 months. NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN AT FISKER $FSR but I think it is a fair bet. If all stakeholders work together they can right the Fisker $FSR ship. Stakeholders are Convertible Debt Holders, Outsourced Mfg like Magna, Vendors, Employees, Governments around the world (USA, Germany, Austria etc.) and Common Shareholders which include some of the worlds leading investors. USA did bail GM out ! They can cut a deal for Fisker since competition is good. Tesla $TSLA other then Fisker $FSR is the only sold EV Maker in USA. USA will never let Chinese EV cannibalize such a critical industry. [https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FSRN/holders](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/FSRN/holders)

Mentions:#PJT #CVNA #FSRN #GM #TSLA

nrfc147

Yesterday at 8:23 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

i mean puts on CVNA tomorrow has to be the play right? This shortsqueeze ends with a 30% bang just like GM EEeEeEe

Mentions:#CVNA #GM

Guy_PCS

Yesterday at 4:21 PM•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

Waymo, GM, Tesla, etc. When Vehicle Autonomy Level 5 is here, that will be the end of these ride-sharing companies. Package and food delivery companies can purchase their own level 5 robot taxis. People who own their level 5 vehicles can turn them into taxis.

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fakebeerrealweed

2 days ago at 1:03 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

This brand will bounce back. I for one expected these earnings to not go well but only due to finance rates not being cut. It's really hard to pitch someone with an 800 credit score a 6% car loan when they got a 2.5% loan on their last vehicle. They will just hold on to that shit. That being said, Peugeot is working to get them past Ford in terms of EV tech. Rolling out mild hybrids a few years ago was key not only in terms of locking in sales (a lease on a hybrid vehicle is far less than their ICE counterpart as the entire weight of the tax rebates is put on only 30 to 60% of the vehicle value) but also getting their dealer network ready (especially service) for the EV onslaught that is coming. Then 6 months ago, they told their dealer network that if they are in a CARB state, they will only receive EV versions of models while those not in CARB states will only receive ICE models except for customer orders. This pissed a lot of people off but that was the goal. Each state has their own dealership lobbying group and they want them to start pressuring state legislators to get moving on EV vehicles and those that don't simply won't get the inventory. Ballsy for sure. How GM is up after earnings and Stellantis is down befuddles me but long term investment in Stellantis is wise. Wagoneer S debuts in a few weeks and their dealer network is far more prepared than GM. I'm going to buy up some cheap options over the next few days as I watch their bounce back

Mentions:#ICE #GM

waldenducks

2 days ago at 10:28 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM ☕️☕️

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JangoDjarin

2 days ago at 10:25 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM ☕

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IndividualistAW

2 days ago at 7:11 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Iirc GM echo and @mc got bumps on their own before WSB jumped aboard.

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but_why_doh

2 days ago at 2:43 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Nevermind GM and Hyundai already selling cheap EVs. This is elons car, so it must be better!

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The_Man_in_Black_19

2 days ago at 10:35 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

This! Plus, man who wants to go work for GM or Ford right now?

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bigwig500

2 days ago at 10:29 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

If a strike is averted or settle and they have GM like boost?

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Nemisis_the_2nd

2 days ago at 7:35 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

I can just imagine the board of someone like ford or GM in a meeting right now going "how about we just hire our competitors entire department for developing charging stations". Rent an office space near their original HQ and match their pay, and they'll have a well established branch ready to go almost instantly.

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bawtatron2000

2 days ago at 3:52 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

lol...that ford "robot" is hilarious. guess we'll see if Ford & GM will ever roll out those suckers...haha. Hyundia cars are shit budget cars, but Boston Dynamics is the best in town to be sure. You forgot Honda makes a decent robot. I guess we'll see on self driving and taxis. I personally couldn't care less, and just flip TSLA for kicks every once in a while but WSB vs Elon is so played out.

Mentions:#GM #TSLA

Unfiltered_America

3 days ago at 1:23 PM•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

When you start or buy a new business expect to do every job yourself, for the first 3-5 years you. You won't be able to afford the extra staff to cover someone when they're sick, quit or need a day off, so it is ALL on you to pick up the slack. You will get no vacation, no time off. You will only work, only the business matters, and you will get very little pay if any. If you survive, and if your business survives, you just might be able to afford to hire a GM and bookkeeper and work considerably less and still make a profit. You will bleed, you will hate life, you will regret your decision, you will cry.... but if you win, if you get just a little bit lucky in that you've carved the correct niche out for your business, you might just be able to sell it for retirement money or be able to become the owner that's rarely on site.

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Creepy_Vehicle_4071

3 days ago at 10:30 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Is GM a long term buy?

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chr1spe

3 days ago at 7:48 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I didn't have to. I was trying to give multiple examples of competitors Tesla is behind. I chose what I considered the best or near the best in those different areas, though I haven't tested every competing driver assist. GM makes robots https://www.nasa.gov/robonaut2/nasa-and-gm-take-a-giant-leap-forward-in-robotics/, automated taxis, and better driver assists. Hyundai owns Boston Dynamics, also separately has made robots under the Hyundai name, has better driver assists, and is farther on automated taxis than Tesla https://www.hyundai.com/eu/mobility-and-innovation/technology-and-innovation/robotics/robotaxi.html. Ford makes robots https://corporate.ford.com/articles/research-and-innovation/autonomous-vehicle-robot-delivery.html, has better driver assist, was part owner of Argo AI which actually operated automated taxis, and has continued development after Argo AI was disbanded and split between Ford and VW with Lattitude AI https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/03/02/ford-establishes-latitude-ai-to-develop-future-automated-driving.html They all have more experience in all of those areas than Tesla. Also, this is all normal car company stuff. The argument that Tesla is different because of those things is just screaming that you're ignorant of what car companies actually do.

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chr1spe

3 days ago at 6:55 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Hyundai owns a better robot company, and GM owns a company that has actually operated automatic taxis, unlike Tesla. Personally, I trust Ford's driver assist features as much as Tesla's, and they're more convenient because they don't cheap out on sensors and require the driver to put force on the wheel to check if they're paying attention. The one thing Tesla does have any advantage in is its charging network, but that isn't anywhere near enough to justify their valuation. They make very little money off the network, and charging in general isn't going to be a huge industry since 90% or more of charging is done at home.

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BlitzAuraX

3 days ago at 3:37 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Totally false. I'm assuming you are referring to Baidu, the Google of China. TSLA is legally forced to work with Baidu in order to obtain their mapping data. China doesn't hand them out to anyone and it'd be very difficult, or impossible for TSLA to obtain it themselves being a foreign company. They 'could' do it but Baidu has been operating in China since its inception and has all the mapping data already. It'd make zero sense for TSLA to have a team there to start the entire process all over again when they can just outsource it. This has nothing to do with FSD itself. It's the mapping data. That's why joint ventures in China for foreign companies are very common - particularly in the auto industry. SAIC-GM, FAW-Volkswagen/Toyota. It's a must if you want to do business in China. As for China having data, yes, it's the price of working in China. Nothing inherently wrong with it. China operates a different governing system than America. From China's POV, if a manufacturer is going to come in and take advantage of their large population to make $, China also wants to benefit from it. I'm not defending China's practices as wrong or right. It's a matter of what works for them. So they get FSD data from Tesla. FYI, China has cameras in every major street in China operated by the government. They don't need Tesla to get data.

Mentions:#TSLA #FSD #SAIC #GM

VotedOut

4 days ago at 1:21 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

The Tesla Elon playbook - Report terrible earnings... Take a trip to China... pump your stock up by more than Ford or GM's entire market cap... still have terrible earnings anyways... but at least your stock is up now.

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Mindless_Profile_76

4 days ago at 1:17 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

My grandfather was the GM at Kale Uniform in Chicago, IL when Buffet bought it. Early 80s. i guess my dad and him went in on $350K back then. Something like 40 shares. There are 22 left.

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peter-doubt

4 days ago at 1:01 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

My favorite episode was a one-off... 2007-2008 market slump had me holding cash, waiting for something instead of regular monthly contributions. When GM declared bankruptcy, I looked at their competitors.. only Ford looked "investable", so I piled 50% of my cash in.. at $1.80. the rest went to GE, because if they were in trouble, the whole country was. I tripled on GE, and got a 7x return on Ford. **Look for general distress and shop the competitors.** And learn to WAIT

Mentions:#GM #GE

Friendly-Profit-8590

4 days ago at 11:41 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Take a look at GM too

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constructiontimeagnn

4 days ago at 9:42 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I think it's a sleeper man. Fleets. EV's can't hang with Fleets, out for the count, so that leaves the Kings in the biz to rake in all that mula.. which is pretty much Ford and GM. EV failed the Fleet test in Hertz.

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ThreeSupreme

4 days ago at 6:31 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Tesla's valuation seems to be heavily dependent on mass delusion... **A Brief History of US auto manufacturers** Ford Motor Company was founded by Henry Ford on June 16, 1903. Henry Ford built his first automobile, which he called a quadricycle, at his home in Detroit in 1896. After the formation of the company in 1903, the first Ford car, the original Model A, was assembled at the Mack Avenue plant in July of that same year. It wasn’t until five years later, in 1908, that the highly successful Model T was introduced. This marked a turning point in the history of transportation and the automotive industry. Ford Motor Company revolutionized the automotive industry by mass-producing vehicles that were affordable to the masses and introducing the moving assembly line. The period with the highest number of auto manufacturers in the U.S. after 1903 was during the early 1910s. Starting with Duryea in 1895, at least 1,900 different companies have been formed, producing over 3,000 makes of American automobiles. The industry saw a significant rise in the number of automakers, including the emergence of the Big Three - Ford, GM, and Chrysler. However, events like World War I (1917–1918) and the Great Depression (1929–1939) drastically reduced the number of both major and minor producers. By the end of the 1950s, the remaining smaller producers disappeared or merged into amalgamated corporations. So, the peak of auto manufacturers in the U.S. can be considered to be in the early 20th century, before these events. **From the peak of 1,900 different US auto manufacturing companies to the 1960s, 99 percent of US auto manufacturers went out of business** The early 20th century saw a boom in the number of auto manufacturers in the U.S., with around 1,900 companies being formed. However, a series of events including World War I, the Great Depression, and the increasing competition led to a significant reduction in the number of auto manufacturers. By the 1960s, the vast majority of these companies had either gone out of business or had been absorbed by larger corporations. This period of consolidation led to the dominance of the “Big Three” - Ford, General Motors, and Chrysler. So, approximately 99% of U.S. auto manufacturers that existed at the peak in the early 1910s were no longer in business by the 1960s. It’s a testament to the intense competition and rapid evolution of the automotive industry. **The new vanguard: Tesla, Apple, and Google enter the fray?** If its so difficult to become a profitable auto manufacturer, why do companies like Tesla, and tech companies like Apple and Google seem to think that they can easily come in and dominate the auto industry? With the rise of electric vehicles (EVs) and autonomous vehicles, tech companies are attracted by the shift in customer preferences towards more technologically advanced, and connected vehicles. However, it’s important to note that entering the auto industry doesn’t guarantee success, and these companies will face significant challenges, including manufacturing at scale, regulatory approval, and intense competition. While Tesla, Apple, and Google are not traditional auto manufacturers they have significant resources, and strong brand recognition. However, the auto industry is known for its high barriers to entry, complex supply chains, and significant regulatory requirements. Manufacturing cars at scale is a massive undertaking that poses significant challenges, even for well-resourced companies.

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Icankickmyownass

4 days ago at 5:55 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Amazon heavily invested in Riv. Lol they’re probably not pumping them out fast enough. Also, Ford like it’s CATL, like Tesla, like GM. US just letting China win the battery race. Walmart is investing heavily into it’s own EV charging, my guess is for some Spark related things. EV chargers will be all over b/c of big business, just like a good % of their shoppers now are Sparkers (1099) shopping for Walmart+ members. Need some more time

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IlllIlIIlIlII

5 days ago at 11:49 AM•r/StockMarket See CommentSee Original Comment

I was watching this stock marketcap timelapse, GM was holding there for almost 100 fucking years, Google so far was in the top just since 2013 and the faang stocks fully in the top 5 are just in recent year. If they are the next auto industry then they'll be our boomer retirement funds, it's a faster world nowadays though but the corporations are also more powerful but definitely this video makes my mind more at peace by going balls deep into current tech. My current portfolio consists of 50% of ETH + BTC and the rest is scattered, I've bought like 25% of PFE and Disney, 10% of Google & Tesla and now I'm waiting to take my 1000% profits from ETH/BTC and throw 80% of it to MSFT, Apple and... not sure yet which third stock I want, might be my speculative TTWO purchase if it drops to $100 range. Not sure if it work out but if I'll hit my ETH target then overall I should be well financially, if not then I'll have to work till my retirement age.

Mentions:#GM #PFE #MSFT #TTWO

luv2block

5 days ago at 10:28 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

While this is true, starting a price war is a calculated move. I don't think he just did it without serious consideration for the consequences. While it will create a lot of pain for Tesla, it will probably bankrupt Ford and GM (this whole "people want hybrid" crap is probably both a narrative planted in the media and also a temporary issue due to lack of charging resources). Tesla on the other hand will be quite difficult to bankrupt. They have a good product. Their biggest risk is going to be a class action lawsuit over FSD or if the FSD is found to be unsafe and they are told to remove it (turn it off) from all their cars.

Mentions:#GM #FSD

BlitzAuraX

5 days ago at 3:17 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Your analogy is horrible. Other auto companies are the ones in trouble. GM/Ford aren't even trying to sell EV's anymore because they're losing too much money and there is no demand for their EV's. If you don't think EV's are the future, I'll see you in 2035 when more than half the vehicles sold will be an EV. I'm not sure why you think Tesla will merge, buy, or be bought out by a legacy automaker. How exactly is Tesla going to go belly up? They have $27b in cash and \~$1b in debt. Why would Tesla buy a legacy automaker? They offer nothing to Tesla... Merge? Why? You're not making any logical sense here.

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ButthealedInTheFeels

6 days ago at 4:14 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Except they aren’t faster than their competitors. They are still stuck in shitty level 2 and Mercedes has fully certified and approved level 3 (and I have read that they would have level 4 capability if they were as reckless and irresponsible as Tesla is). Honda also has level 3 but I believe it’s only in Japan…and GM/Ford and maybe others have hands free level 2 which is far better than Tesla’s so-called FSD. Not to mention how late they were to the EV pickup game (while not delivering on basically ANY of the promises) the CT is all but dead on arrival.

Mentions:#GM #FSD

Worried_Quarter469

6 days ago at 12:52 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

My big AI stocks didn’t do well today: F, STLA, GM, TSLA MMs got me.

Mentions:#STLA #GM #TSLA

chrisman37

6 days ago at 6:13 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Wow I thought this was my RH acct for a second. Use the $1000 to buy a onewheel to get you to/from Wendy’s man. I can refer you to my GM if you want

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JangoDjarin

7 days ago at 10:16 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM ☕

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Sean_VasDeferens

8 days ago at 2:32 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM WSB!!!! I love the smell of recession in the morning!

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Sensitive_Worth_2274

8 days ago at 1:19 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM, anyone having stagflation for breakfast today too?

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JangoDjarin

8 days ago at 10:23 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM ☕

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xCAPTSTONERB91x

8 days ago at 10:20 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

More like Toyota and GM destroying it.

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Substantial-Lawyer91

8 days ago at 11:25 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Neither Ford nor GM have ever made a profitable EV.

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OzwanKanoz

8 days ago at 11:04 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Seriously though … I believe that although Tesla was first out of the EV gate (kudos to Musk) they are not going to place at the finish. Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota, and a myriad of smaller startups all offer EV’s. I’m beginning to believe that within a decade Tesla will either be a VW or Volvo size shop, or it will cease to exist.

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Apart-Bad-5446

8 days ago at 11:01 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Not much. EV's are more susceptible to declined demand especially in downturn economies which is why EV companies in China all suffered, some worse than Tesla. Ford and GM are cutting back on EV production for this same reason. There's still a large % of Americans who are relecutant to go EV's. Add in financial concerns and EV's become secondary to ICE.

Mentions:#GM #ICE

Sure_Fee_74

8 days ago at 10:32 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

What does it say about Tesla that both Foton and GM delivered good earnings reports and Tesla's were terrible?

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TurkeyBLTSandwich

8 days ago at 3:39 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I think it's sort of false to say Tesla was every a luxury brand. If anything, it was the first to mass market evs at a rate viable to the upper middle class. Compare a Tesla S to a BMW 5 or Mercedes E class or Lexus LS. All of them are just better places to sit in. Tesla does compete with its domestic counterparts like Ford, Chevy, and GM when it comes to fit and finish. Tesla does still have an advantage with its charging network, highway assist, and mobile app support. Plus it's great in 0 to 60, but that novelty wears out quick for the most part. Once the Koreans and Germans get EV factories in America, Tesla will have an even MORE difficult time to convince consumers to choose their brand over the other guys. Oh and Elon Musk is an absolute deranged man at this point.

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misanthropic_anthrop

8 days ago at 3:20 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Exactly. The market will react positively to the way above expectations on earnings from ge, GM ups, visa, etc. the earnings season has been quite good indeed

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BudgetHovercraft8828

9 days ago at 1:09 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Go on. Whats the GM play?

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Friendly-Profit-8590

9 days ago at 1:04 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I won’t be able to retire with GM calls but hoping to pay some bills

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ISeeYourBeaver

9 days ago at 1:01 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

"Told 'ya so", that's what I think. I said 10 years ago that Tesla made shit cars and didn't know what they were doing and that, when the market was ripe, the big boys (GM, Ford, Toyota, MB, etc.) were going to come along and eat Tesla's fucking lunch. I predicted that one of the majors would eventually buy Tesla once the stock price was low enough (south of 50, easily, I'd say), and I stand by that prediction.

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jglover82

9 days ago at 12:18 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

post yourself listening to the GM earnings call.....LOL

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320th-Century

9 days ago at 11:49 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

“Boomer” stocks have been on a roll. GE, GM, T, and surprisingly BA.

Mentions:#GE #GM #BA

ADynes

9 days ago at 11:27 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Just bought some AAPL shares in pre-market. No way they don't go up a little before earnings. Also my Ford 13c's are at 210% and hoping for more after seeing GM earnings.

Mentions:#AAPL #GM

crazyyimmy

9 days ago at 11:16 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

good point. Neither Ford or GM have a guy named Elon Musk checkmate ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)

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Worried_Quarter469

9 days ago at 11:12 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM had a robotaxi last year

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Fatherfigure34

9 days ago at 5:53 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM goes up so Ford must go up. Can’t lose. I bet the farm.

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zitrored

9 days ago at 5:17 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

With that dumb logic then GM and Ford are not car companies.

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gravis1982

9 days ago at 4:30 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Tesla is a car company. 10 years ago they were not. They are not stopping, they want to be many others things. GM, well, GM is going to be the same company as it always was. Money is made by buying stocks before the money in is quantifiable.

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m0nk_3y_gw

9 days ago at 4:03 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

> Plus it sounds like the Model 2 affordable car isn't dead after all. I think that's the main reason for the pump -- it isn't dead, production is expected slightly earlier (1st half of 2025), and it can be made on existing Model 3/Y lines (doesn't require a whole new factory). > and think it should be priced like a regular car company The market recognizes that EVs are different than regular manufacturers that haven't gone all-in on EVs. It isn't just Tesla - Rivian was valued higher than GM or Ford before they sold their first thousand trucks.

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ThatRocketSurgeon

9 days ago at 3:49 AM•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

The Cadillac Lyriq only delivered double digit numbers in 2022. There were 86 deliveries. They delivered 9,000 in 2023. Percentage wise, that’s huge but not even a drop in the bucket compared to the 1,810,000 teslas delivered that same year while GM delivered a total 75,883 EVs. I don’t really think Tesla is losing out to GM when they’re delivering 24x the amount of EVs.

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etom21

9 days ago at 2:21 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

We're going to rush out shit EVs with such poor build quality that it will accelerate the downfall of our reputation. When the dust settles, they're going to make GM look like quality car builders.

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KickBassColonyDrop

9 days ago at 1:42 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Tesla's stock is completely disconnected from its fundamentals. It has 18.5% gross margin per unit sold on all its vehicles except CT. The next one down is Ford at ~14%. The next one after that is GM at 7-9%. They're executing well, and though their sales are down due to market pressure from hybrids, they're overall leading on the EV front *still.* It'd be nice if it was a private company, because then the stock price bullshit wouldn't be so material to any relevant discussion.

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Fine_Magician_790

9 days ago at 1:10 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Elon Musk was not invited to the White House electric vehicle summit in 2023 for one reason: unions. Tesla, at the time, was the world's largest producers of electric vehicles, but the UAW is so powerful that they got the President of the United States to kick Tesla off the property. Do you think UAW (with their money and voting membership) is going to allow Congress to certify a cheap electric vehicle, with excellent battery life, and workable features into America....crushing GM, Ford, and all the other domestically produced combustion/electric vehicles? Congress cares about the environment unless....it gets in the way of the votes and money. Tesla (or any other lower cost Chinese import) will not be allowed to dump inexpensive electric cars on the streets of America. Got it. Good.

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Racxie

9 days ago at 1:06 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Why are you bring Ford and GM into this when you were talking about BYD and EVs? Not to mention that BYD **are** EVs and they sold more than Tesla in Q3 and have shortened the gap over the last couple of years.

Mentions:#GM #BYD

VariationAgreeable29

9 days ago at 12:53 AM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

One only need to read GM’s earnings press release to figure out how badly TSLA is fuckdd

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R-E-L-O-A-D-I-N-G

9 days ago at 12:50 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Ford and GM also sold more cars than Tesla. Tesla sold the most electric vehicles. Thanks.

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DrummerCompetitive20

9 days ago at 12:47 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

But Tesla needs to be priced like GM, Toyota, Honda, Ford!! Who do have Jack shit other than shitty cars ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)

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BAGross85

9 days ago at 12:41 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

$TSLA is probably the only real American car company left, except Ford. GM and Chrysler screwed their investors by letting the stocks become worthless, listed on the pink sheets, and starting a new stock with the same name. In fact, GM and Chrysler “Q” stocks, still trade to this day, waiting to be realized as losses to offset taxable gains. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t exist as companies anymore. I’d buy a Tesla if it wasn’t so darn expensive.

Mentions:#TSLA #GM

Tensoneu

9 days ago at 12:29 AM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

2018 Model 3 production hell. In 6 years have multiple Gigafactories. Released Model Y, Cyber truck, and Semi, refresh Model 3. FSD beta releases to mass public in November/December of 2022. Optimus in development. Tesla Solar. Model Y becomes the top selling vehicle globally. GM since 2018. Promises 25 electrified cars by 2022. Releases a Bolt EUV. Shifting to Ultium Platform. Some new EV's are coming out. Ford since 2018. Releases Mach E and F150 Lightning. Last month Ford sold 4,400 Lightning trucks Tesla sold 3,878 Cyber trucks since December. I don't know but if I was a betting man, even if Tesla is labeled as an auto manufacturer, the past 6 years they've accomplished a significant amount compared to other automakers. Sure they may be a year or two late but they'll eventually deliver.

Mentions:#FSD #GM

dragontamer5788

9 days ago at 11:49 PM•r/investing See CommentSee Original Comment

GM did well with EVs last quarter. We're just entering a period of dramatic competition increases. The legacy EV makers like Tesla are losing out to upstarts like GM.

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shawman123

9 days ago at 11:48 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Have you ever seen any group of folks so excited to pay 56B to their CEO which is > 10% of market cap. This is someone who already owns chunk of the stock. That is quintessential definition of cult. This is nothing but a meme stock. Otherwise after a shit earnings it should have tanked. Also folks are calling out something bs about earnings. how is Auto GM just down 20 basis points when Giga Berlin was down 2 weeks and price cuts and many other impact. Obviously they have booked a big FSD revenue recognition. We will only know the details when 10Q is out.

Mentions:#GM #FSD

Heavy_Aerie2196

9 days ago at 11:26 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Do you think Ford can also go up a dollar or 2 after earnings since GM and TSLA mooned?

Mentions:#GM #TSLA

Irishfornuclear

9 days ago at 11:19 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I have Ford puts expiring end of May. My rationale was that earnings for Q1 companies (including Ford) would be okay, but that guidance would not be with ‘higher-for-longer’ impacting consumers ability to afford big ticket items like cars. GM had okay earnings, but raised their outlook (and went up 5%). I considered selling my puts today as Ford stock didn’t move but I still think Tesla is the canary in the coal mine.

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SnooStories5199

9 days ago at 11:14 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I did good on GM and bought even more F hope so .

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ErinG2021

9 days ago at 11:10 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Calls on F. GM did great today and posted big beats. F will too.

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Accomplished-Bill-45

9 days ago at 11:06 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

The possible logic of the stock price goes up: (1) tesla is making cheaper cars for low-end market (2) US tariffs will keep cheap chinese ev out of the market (3) All other car brands such as GM, Ford, Japan/Korean brands are not ready to mass produce cheap EV as cost-effective as Tesla in foreseeable near future. (In fact, they're reducing EV production line) when all these realized, it implies that Tesla will dominate the low-end EV market like it used to dominate mid-high end market in 2020-2021. Though the low-end EV market would not be as big as mid-high end, but if Tesla established such monopoly role in US low-end EV market. It's possible we see its stock price back $300. Note that even in China, with all these penalties/setbacks of purchasing gasoline cars (such as long waiting time and high licence fee, limited access to bridges etc with gasoline car) solid charge network, and lower electrical bills, people tends to choose hybrid over pure EV.

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DrummerCompetitive20

9 days ago at 10:47 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Tesla in talks with GM to license FSD

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_hiddenscout

9 days ago at 10:44 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

I post about how some names in the semi space are seeing slowness in autos and industrials and it should bottom at some point. $TXN gave some guidance around autos and industrials in their earnings: [https://x.com/EricJhonsa/status/1782876004371034327](https://x.com/EricJhonsa/status/1782876004371034327) >auto semi sales were down low-single digits Y/Y in Q1 (probably better than feared). Industrial was down 25%, but they mentioned some customers are nearing the end of inventory corrections. Still wonder if it might make sense to jump into some the autos soon, especially after some good news from GM this morning. Looking at some names like $ON $NXPI and $ACLS

Mentions:#TXN #GM #NXPI #ACLS

TimeTravelingChris

9 days ago at 10:44 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

FYI GM just crushed earnings, had a PE of 6x, and a market cap that's a fraction of TSLA. BuT aI AnD robots whatever.

Mentions:#GM #TSLA

Karl151

9 days ago at 10:12 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

I under estimated how far Elon would go to pump this shitstock. I might’ve lost the battle but I will win the war. 5 years from now when all these bullshit promises fail to materialize Tesla will be lucky to be as valuable as Ford or GM

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Icankickmyownass

9 days ago at 10:07 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

CATL batteries eh? 😂. Ford, GM, looks like we fucked up.

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DrummerCompetitive20

9 days ago at 10:07 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

And GM and ford wonder why nobody gives a shit about them ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)

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_hiddenscout

9 days ago at 10:07 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Legacy is doing well though. $GM beat and raised today. I think the issue with TSLA is a few things, not really rates as much. One, is they banked on a lot of growth in China. However, basically BYD is eating their lunch. The problem is that for a lot of consumers, EV's are going to be a race to the bottom in most cases. Another issue is with Elon himself. I mean I've seen people put bumper stickers on their car around buying it before Elon went crazy. In the auto space, ICE and Hybrid are doing really well. There are some reasons for that, but a big one is still infrastructure. We haven't built enough chargers. Then there is still the question around used pricing. Like when buying a car, you know your purchase will depreciate in value. However, when new prices keep getting cut, that means that used will get cut as well. I think right now, if you bought a TSLA last year, it's now down 30% in terms of value of your car. That's pretty bad.

Mentions:#GM #TSLA #BYD #ICE

R-E-L-O-A-D-I-N-G

9 days ago at 10:00 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

Tell me how Tesla is not an EV leader 😂. Oh yeah, I remember it’s GM that’s the EV leader.

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arizonamoonshine

9 days ago at 9:40 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

## FORD EARNINGS ## GM killed it today, Tesla missed but is running on some good future projections. Meanwhile Ford is killing Hybrid Sales, their EV growth is going up as other companies go down. Extremely Bullish on a beat

Mentions:#FORD #GM

Heavy_Aerie2196

9 days ago at 9:31 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

GM and TSLA mooned, does it mean green for Ford too? The calls were cheap today. I grabbed 25 at 0.10 for 14C expiring this week

Mentions:#GM #TSLA

luv2block

9 days ago at 9:17 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

if Musk were to spend billions on advertising, the way GM and Ford do, surprise surprise the "new trend" would revert back to pure EVs.

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AP9384629344432

9 days ago at 9:16 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

The numbers are gonna get worse. All those recent price cuts (FSD full package / subscription and new discounts in China / US / Australia / etc.) all happened in this current quarter, i.e., are not reflected in today's report. It seems TSLA is recognizing deferred FSD revenue, possibly to juice the quarterly numbers. That means it won't get included in the next earnings report. They burned up $2.6B in FCF this quarter, reducing cash position from $29.1B to $26.8B. GM by contrast did $1.8B in automotive FCF. Tesla specifically seems to be getting hit harder by the rate hikes than other companies. When Street starts valuing a car company like a car company, watch out.

Mentions:#FSD #TSLA #FCF #GM

DrummerCompetitive20

9 days ago at 9:11 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

CNBC dick riding GM lol. Why is Tesla up?! It should be down ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) Nobody wants dinosaur auto

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Bookish_Tiger

9 days ago at 9:05 PM•r/wallstreetbets See CommentSee Original Comment

If TSLA now has a 5% operating margin and negative 25% revenue growth, I hate to say it but people might as well buy GM!

Mentions:#TSLA #GM

AP9384629344432

9 days ago at 8:55 PM•r/stocks See CommentSee Original Comment

Some basic comparisons: **TSLA:** Revenue Growth: -9% (-13% for automotive specifically) Gross margin: 17.4% Operating margin: 5.5% Adjusted EBITDA margin: 15.9% GAAP Net income margin: 6.5% ( = 1129/17378) Non-GAAP Net income margin: 8.8% (= 1536/17378) P/E: Annualizing last quarter's 0.45 cents, that's a 87 P/E (no guidance given it appears). TTM is 33, forward 55. Once this quarter shows up in TTM statistics, the trailing P/E will jump. Unsure about forward P/E, which is currently in the high 50s. --- **GM:** Revenue Growth: +7.6% Gross Margin: 8.7% (I'm a bit unsure if I'm calculating this right, but I took 1 - 39277/43014). Lots of weird adjustments going on here to get EBIT margin below. EBIT-adjusted margin: 9% Net Income Margin: 6.9% P/E Ratio: 6 trailing, 4.8 forward, EV / EBITDA: 6.3 forward --- **Toyota:** Revenue: +23%, Guiding for +17% (But Yen / USD effects make this unreliable imo) Gross Margins: 22% Operating Margin 14% Net Income Margin: 11.3% P/E: 12 Forward, EV/EBITDA: 10.6 forward

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