MSOS

WilsonTradesMaui

Mind bottling the “sell the news” happening in MSOS. Wait for the CEOs to report next week addressing their new out year estimates with no 280e tax. Gonna blow up

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS companies earnings next week tho wait for updated guidance on tax breaks from S3

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS?

creedthoughtsblog

weedstocks ain’t boomer stocks TLRY MSOS 🚀🚀

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS 🚀

creedthoughtsblog

SDNL MSOS earning week next week, reschedule news this week should give a lot of guidance pump calls premiums are incredibly cheap right now so could be a good play, MSOS IV at around 70% for May monthlies 🤯

IndividualistAW

I’ve slowly started exiting my Canadian weedstonk positions and switching into MSOS, CRBLF and CURLF. There’s a clear difference with ACB and Tilray

TuffNutzes

That David Klein runs a tight ship! Like clockwork. LMAO. Financing "to further strengthen balance sheet". Oh man, pure comedy. And people still buying this over MSOS or solid US plays like TCNNF.

creedthoughtsblog

every little bounce is sold off to prevent any sustained movement up fuck these manipulations, just watch MSOS will drop to $9.50 in last 15min

skins-skins

I would like the think Verano knew what the implications were before they made their decision to back out. I will watch MSOS and see if they trim any holdings but I would doubt it.

h2ozo

The biggest news this sector has ever seen, and MSOS is only up 8% from the 4/29 close. Make it make sense.

SharpRevolution2

MSOS calls

feeshNjolf

Pretty apparent yesterday when they pinned MSOS at $10. I suppose we should be looking for patterns and try to join the party. Pretty lame

TurboSuperboS

Maybe MSOS will go up again next week with all the earnings going on...

I_Got_High

MSOS logic: SAFE RUMORS 13.xx$ S3 9.xx$ 🙄

creedthoughtsblog

man MSOS calls are so cheap even though earnings are next week can’t help load up more, maybe some good projections off S3 potentially lead to analysts upgrades

phatbob198

Here are some of the next earnings dates for MSOS: GTBIF - May 8th. VRNOF- May 8th. TCNNF - May 9th. CURLF - May 9th. TSNDF - May 9th. CRLBF - May 15th.

Th3Gr33nBastard

Is there a list of which MSOS are releasing earnings next week?

g1ven2fly

Level2 data (TLRY/CGC/MSOS) looks pretty strong this morning, big buys at the ask, and the big sells at the bids are quickly being gobbled up. TLRY has \~100,000 share wall at 2.10.

creedthoughtsblog

weedstocks all election year SNDL earning next week should be good, other MSOS reporting earnings as well and option premium low

CarbsAndLeather

Whoever is playing with the MSOS 6.5p for 5/24, you gave me a heart attack. 😂😂

ItinerantDrifter

As others have mentioned only some small inflows the last couple days into both MSOS and MSOX. Just under $1M into MSOS yesterday and ~$1.7M total the last two days into MSOX.

phatbob198

Ok, thanks, that is probably the difference. I added each of the holdings' market value individually, rather than using those numbers you mentioned. I realize now that MSOS saying only to subtract "the total value of the ETF’s equity and swap positions" doesn't include anything about their previous cash in that calculation. So I guess that makes sense. Anyway, thanks.

creedthoughtsblog

so they gonna try to keep MSOS below $10 today?

phatbob198

Last night I was doing the math for the first time to calculate investable cash for MSOS. I got a different number than what u /itinerantdrifter posted yesterday, so I was hoping to find the discrepancy. From Advisorshares' website: >...take the ETF’s current AUM, **less** the total value of the ETF’s equity and swap positions, and you will be able to calculate how much cash the ETF has of investable cash. Yesterday's AUM reported as - $1,127,803,618.4 Total value of equity/swaps (My calculation from their holdings) - $1,127,229,977.06 $1,127,803,618.4 - $1,127,229,977.06 = $573,641.34 What was posted last night as their cash amount: $905,600. I'm just trying to figure out the discrepancy, nothing more. I'm sure it is probably my error, I'd just like to figure out what the error is. If anyone is able to see what I'm missing, please let me know. Thank you. https://advisorshares.com/etfs/msos/

Throwing_Horns

^(5/2/24 MSOS update: $0.963MM INFLOW (+100,000 shares)) ^(5/2/24 MSOX update: $1.442MM INFLOW (+275,000 shares)) ^(Inflows yesterday.)

Th3Gr33nBastard

Whole market looking green af again, can’t wait to see MSOS stay red all day!

jmu_alumni

How tf is this downvoted? There was a net 13 million of inflows into MSOS since S3 leak

creedthoughtsblog

weedstocks earnings next week and the options premium are so low despite reschedule news this week SNDL TLRY MSOS are my plays

SampleHomeSapiens

Does anyone know the outflows from MSOS (and MSOX) in the last few days. u/ItinerantDrifter There was surely a massive sell-off from Doug Kass and similar.

UsedState7381

I own weedstocks through the MSOS ETF, and there's two big pieces of misinformations on this post that must be called even by me: >2 Marijuana businesses will have broader access to regular banking. That means lower rates to borrow. Refinancing debt to lower rates. No more risky cash only businesses. That means growth and profits on a massive scale. Nope, still a federally illegal drug, and that's the main reason why banks don't want to touch the businesses, sets a bad precedent even if it's for something harmless as weed. You will want SAFER banking or Garland memo to come through for this, otherwise the businesses will remain cash only. >3 Marijuana will now be able to be shipped across state lines in the mail. False. It's still a illegal drug, it will still remain a criminal offense to transport it across states, even legal states. Only full legalization and descheduling the drug will fix this. If you want to pump your weedstocks to find a easy exit liquidity, then don't do it through misinformation like this, it only makes weedstonkers look desperate for an way out.

phatbob198

I saw discussion about MSOS current holdings, so I figured I'd post them here. As of 5/02/24 (#shares and portfolio weight): GREEN THUMB - 20,310,870.00 - 24.05% CURALEAF - 43,143,059.00 - 21.54% TRULIEVE - 16,897,218.00 - 18.35% VERANO - 27,869,977.00 - 12.94% CRESCO - 31,985,332.00 - 6.13% TERRASCEND - 34,791,936.00 - 5.44% GLASS HOUSE - 4,084,225.00 - 3.38% AYR - 11,323,374.00 - 2.51% JUSHI - 21,005,306.00 - 1.34% CANNABIST - 40,165,774.00 - 1.10%

likeshismetal

Great announcement. I'm glad I got to sell my $MSOS yesterday morning and finally break even before the price went down again 

jmu_alumni

So S3 is basically confirmed and only 13 million of inflows into MSOS has occurred… yea we are early

Mr_northerngoose

No TCNNF in MSOS anymore? Suprising

nfisherzz

This is such a volatile sector. This is just the tip of the iceberg. In the coming months, it is going to slowly rise. A majority of people are freaking out because we didn’t get the 2-3x jump as expected. We have to wait, not day trade. I put all of my money into stocks back in August, if we hold at a year we get taxed less on capital gains. I understand the bagholders that have been 5+ years out that don’t want to have this burden anymore. But, for the new people, don’t freak out, it will be months up to two years, and we will be rewarded. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/taxes-on-stocks On another note, what do people think of the black rock holdings within MSOS, this confuses me and I’m going to do some research on it.

Fifteen_inches

This is the Moat they were talking about, MSOS will fill the vacuum while foreign importers without a state license will still have to overcome regulatory hurdles.

Burntheta

CGC could continue to make ridiculous moves while shorts cover and try to unwind the technicals after a 4 year bear market. It could also totally fuck you as there were questions just last year as to their survivability. TLdr; buy MSOS for this run, you’ll sleep better.

Fifteen_inches

MSOS is fighting for its life

Minute_Quote_8496

I swear I think MSOS shorts are just messing with people.

Tiaan

Why do you think it's not priced in? Pricing in happens before the news is confirmed. MSOS is up over 100% since we got news of the rescheduling recommendation from HHS back in Aug of last year. CGC is up over 400% from its all time lows a few months ago. We've only dumped since confirming S3 on Tuesday. It sucks but if this isn't evidence of "rescheduling being priced in" idk what it is.

I_Got_High

MSOS under 10$ what a fucking mess.

OX45-Tall

Nice big $7.34 million darkpool buy on MSOS. https://x.com/chartingcycles/status/1786084124891271492?s=46&t=xVvpKfT_JTtPZfmfywunOw

Fifteen_inches

>MSOS up %5 Don’t do that, don’t give me hope

DummyTurkey

MSOS high of day cleared.

Th3Gr33nBastard

Common baby so close to $10 MSOS

greenbelieve

$7.3M buy on the ask for MSOS 👀👀

Budshawz

What was caused by them vs. the news they shared is hard to tell, but it was definitely much more significant than $1M as im pretty sure MSOS moved about $1. As someone who accidently sold $1M, it'll only cause like a 5-10 cent spread during the more active morning/afternoon.

ItinerantDrifter

That didn’t help I’m sure… basically added to the “sell the news” volume. But it depends how large their position was. I remember looking at one of those spikes and thinking that it was consistent with $1M-2M worth of MSOS volume. I could be misremembering, but I don’t think that amount alone could’ve caused the entire issue. But it definitely didn’t help and could’ve helped influence other traders, causing a snowball effect.

Budshawz

Im pretty sure its because a hedge fund exited their position. See - [https://twitter.com/DougKass](https://twitter.com/DougKass) (his hedge fund). If you remember in the past they caused spikes on Mar 14 and Feb 21 taking large positions in MSOS. They said the exited on the spike on Monday. I imagine their position was large enough that it ate what would have been the inflows and why we were at a fixed price for a while. Then without inflows we just got the average person who bought in planning to sell right away all selling the next day.

zygodactyly

>Traders tanked MSOS If traders would just calmly wait for their very own theses to play out we'd all have higher, more solid longterm gains. But no: gotta have those small gains right now, like digging out tiny seedlings that can't grow because greedy fingers keep digging for a harvest it hasn't even begun to begin yet.

DonJohnson108

MSOS closing above 10 would be a win after yesterday… 🙏

ItinerantDrifter

Here’s my theory for yesterday: 1. APs gathered tons of underlyings on Monday due to the huge volume and premium, and were planning to do a lot more creations. 2. Traders tanked MSOS yesterday and crashed the premium, so APs were stuck with lots of declining equities and no chance to arbitrage since MSOS was trading mostly at a discount. 3. APs sold the underlyings back to the market instead of performing creations, amplifying the downswing. This is what makes sense to me, and would explain why we never got a gigantic inflow from the crazy action on Monday.

DrStonkyStonks

In the realm of green, where hopes collide, I stand with Tlry and MSOS by my side. Once caught in the fervor of bullish days, Now mired in the haze of a market's maze. Each tick, each tock of the market's heart, Echoes the fear that my shares will part, With the highs they grew when the dream was new, And I bought the tale that profits would accrue. Yet here I stand, a holder of bags, The market’s swings as harsh as crags. But luck, perhaps, will change my tale, Turning winds to fill my sail. But for now, I am here with you, In weedstocks where dreams dare pursue, Anchored in a hopeful crew, Awaiting gains to start anew.

Rocky_The_Champion

Shorts trying to keep cannabis down but they have no chance. MSOS up 40%YTD CGC up 120% YTD. Finally, you can buy these destroyed names with a catalyst to go higher. Game on boyz.

TwoDrunkKittens

I'm really shocked that the IV on Sept $10 MSOS calls is less than 80%. Anyone playing that one?

Th3Gr33nBastard

Got another $4k in a couple days ready to DCA into MSOS if this bs keeps bleeding

Th3Gr33nBastard

MSOS red lmfao

Tiaan

I don't think people realize that if this is truly "selling the rescheduling news" it means that we've already had our run up (MSOS 4.92->11.37) and that the MSOS all time lows could be retested. Historically, this sector proceeds to create new all time lows when retracing from sell the news events

g1ven2fly

Got level2 up on MSOS, TLRY and CGC (had it up all week) - it looks better today than just about any point yesterday. That said, going to be very hard to have any momentum if SPY keeps up with it's shenanigans.

creedthoughtsblog

TLRY MSOS 👀 while macro bleeds

northdancer

$10 MSOS is literally $30 silver at this point.

inaptitude

I wouldn't be surprised if we see MSOS hit a new baseline above $10, maybe even $11 today. The announcement was exciting, but then the next day was folks digesting the news. I'm seeing more thought out analysis today (see the Daily podcast for example). So people might be taking a closer look today, seeing that it dropped back and getting in now. Or maybe it'll end at $7. WTF do I know.

creedthoughtsblog

wait til earning next week for MSOS and all the pumps coming in

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS 👀 and TLRY doing its thing too weedstocks all election year 🚀🚀

sdkiko

Absolutely nothing will happen today. Bears and bulls will be basically waiting for the first move to be made by the other side all day. $MSOS not a lot of cash on hand according to Dan's last video. Maybe some power hour action today at best?... Tomorrow, on the other hand, will be a very, very interesting day. At the end of the day bulls make money, bears make money and pigs get slaughtered. /u/mollytime was it you who said that originally?

Th3Gr33nBastard

Time for $MSOS to have a big day, no more macro market bs weighing us down

Rocky_The_Champion

LMAO here the guy that does realize the MSOS is up 50% YTD. Cannabis trending higher bud

creedthoughtsblog

weedstocks looking for next leg up? CGC TLRY SNDL MSOS all could pump

Fuego1050

Echelon : (on non official announcement) This leads us to believe that the DEA has reached a Schedule III decision. After the news, the AdvisorShares Pure US Cannabis ETF (MSOS-ARCA, NR) closed up 24.8% on Tuesday, though it has given back more than half of those gains with a decline of 15.0% on Wednesday. We view this as a buying opportunity for long-term investors, as the rescheduling progress has been substantially derisked with this week’s reports and confirmation by the DOJ Director of Public Affairs.

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS or TLRY is just as good as SNDL

derelict5432

Why do you consider MSOS a 'stupid suggestion'? Their biggest holding is Greenthumb (24%). They also hold Cresco (6%).

creedthoughtsblog

MSOS TLRY are also good

creedthoughtsblog

weedstocks gonna bounce back, huge news this week and options cheap right now on MSOS TLRY

soundofheart

SNDL has foot in the US as well. MSOS isn’t a runner like the others they play off of each other.

Fuego1050

Heres Todds sales guy 10:30am yesterday: early color from a sales guy 10:28:12 I thought we'd see a flush out and then some support but quants rule the MSOS (still the vehicle that matters most). Just gets pressed at break-thru levels. No incremental buyers big enough to support. I still feel like this may just be initial digestion. **Every account I have talked to has acknowledged this is the biggest potential catalyst since Nixon era and should help get capital flowing.** All that said, no one stepping into any of the underlying names here on weakness. Shorts pressed, and fast money exits. Guys like chart guys are just playing levels. Its unfortunate - and the setup was there with huge call options setting up a potential gamma squeeze. I still think shorts are way over extended to hold this down. Money that wants to buy will do so slowly and methodically - outside hype.

creedthoughtsblog

*proposed reform it’s not finalized yet. Yesterday was an extreme correction for MSOS, but a fairly reasonable pull back for meme pumps like CGC and LP’s, which are listed on legit big exchanges. the only people who are extremely angry over yesterday’s dump are either 1. options traders 2. people who are new and bought off the meme hype the real long term players who have been DCA properly are celebrating and excited for what’s ahead, and are not bothered by this noise

Hbrich3

Doesn’t feel like it but MSOS has been in a strong uptrend since end of Oct. DEA SIII confirmation only adds to the momentum and will start attracting fresh new investors to the sector. Bullish from here on out for me. These MSO’s are wayyy undervalued

DEASqueezeAllComing

It was big money manipulating : 1- Yesterday we closed at high of the day or few pennies away 2- The speed at which we dropped so hard 3- How dip buying didn't exist or wasn't able to match selling pressure 4- How they took advantage of the headline to play their games 5- Retail doesn't have capital to do 50M volume on MSOS or 82M volume on CGC or 150M volume on TLRY yesterday 6- I assume that majority of retail is already balls deep and didn't sit on their cash to wait exactly for this moment This is some coordinated/manipulated shenanigans

Weak_Picture_3397

Can anyone with overnight trading tell me what MSOS is doing rn? Just curious

immunityfromyou

I’ve been in this shit for years. Yesterday I recommended my friend to throw a couple thousand dollars at CGC or MSOS because of the DEA news. I hope he forgets everything I told him.

Fuego1050

There has to be a mathematical reason for this. Might be as simple as covering into a weekend reducing interest charges on borrow. As interest accumulates sat/sun. This might even be baked into the algorithm. Now I’m certain these animals are way way way over-extended on the short side to make sure we didn’t gamma squeeze today. Huge huge dollar volume last 2 days. I believe 1 billion dollars on MSOS and basket combined. Now factor new entrants didn’t take positions yet….. They are doing DD and waiting for hype to fade - and will cautiously take a position. Maybe now that there is some volume. Should keep a positive trend.

okay_thatworks

looking at inflows... april had effectively half the inflows of feb... https://www.etf.com/etfanalytics/etf-fund-flows-tool-result?tickers=MSOS%2C&startDate=2020-09-01&endDate=2024-05-01&frequency=MONTHLY

FucktardSupreme

Ahhhh, I love the smell of fresh portfolio carnage.   I managed to give back $50k today.  Easy come, easy go.  IDGAF though.  My thesis is that prices will sustain above the 13 mark in MSOS after all the dust settles and we start seeing balance sheets with the 280e impact on it.  

ChefBoyRD-92

Bought some 9.5 5/3 $MSOS puts at the top yesterday. Feeling pretty good going into tomorrow.

Wowowe_hello_dawg

Ive held the same stocks at some point. You have to take a different approach based on the sector tho. I dont mind holding a tech behemoth for years but for me weedstocks, crypto and other high risk spaces have much shorter cycles and investors never really know where it’s going to end. Early in weedstocks I decided to focus on the big players. Early on I had CGC, Aphria, aurora, cronos and canntrust… look where they are now it’s been a massacre. Now if you took the 5 top techstocks five years ago say: apple, amazon, nvidia, microsoft and google… it’s a different story. Fortunately I was taking profit whenever I was in the green and I bought back in 2020, sold most in 2021 for a small profit and bought back in mostly MSOS last summer. I’m not saying im a market genius, I never predicted anything. I got burned on a few plays, I just see clearly when a sector is beaten down, and I also see clearly when I’ve made a lot of profit in a short time, I never push my luck. I also never regret selling early. I dont think too much of old waves I missed, I look into the ocean of stocks for the next wave to ride.

ItinerantDrifter

5/1/24 MSOS update: No Flows Close: $9.57 (-$1.69/-15.01%) NAV: $9.53 (-$1.69/-15.04%) Premium (volume-weighted daily avg): -0.09% ([Chart](https://i.ibb.co/ysJWpFD/f8d4389611df.png)) Cash: $303,807 (+$124,341) Ticker Change (est. cost from close - % of adds) No Share Changes For Any Holdings 5/1/24 MSOX update: $0.260MM INFLOW (+50,000 shares) MSOX Close: $5.18 (-$2.07/-28.55%) MSOX NAV: $5.19 (-$2.03/-28.07%)

Orennji

But it already did. You can read my post history. My average for Ayr is under $1. From my entry point in Trulieve, I am currently up about 300%. I'm at double with Verano. I dollar cost average small amounts into MSOS and I'm up a modest 25% after the pullback today. I can read your post history as well and see your bets are not doing so well.

ShroomGrown

Yesterday I sold my MSOX shares when it was 44% up. Today I bought MSOS shares with that money when it was 13% down. Did I do good?

Fuego1050

A lot of the moves seem to be option related. So after crushing IV, and hedge off, likely from a combo of fast money exit and shorts pressing like animals (offsetting new money buying the news) - My gut says shorts are well over-extended knowing gamma would help get MSOS lower. Now its in a more palatable range - they may cover to right size their short position - coupled with those that sold off - maybe coming back to the table for another quick buck…. If flat tomorrow - may see typical friday cover and move upward.

vsMyself

Are we expecting to see a discount in MSOS?

CaptainAssneck

Well the ceiling on MSOS is $55. If we can’t hold $10 on rescheduling confirmation, then any ceilings might as well be in space, because we sure as hell aren’t going to be hitting them.

MachineWins

Today I increased 10% of all my current holding. I’m standing firm on my strategy, and I fully believe that change is coming to this industry MSOS, CGC, GTBIF, TCNNF, CURA and HITI

JohnnySquesh

Didn't get my Verano today. Just G Thumb and MSOS. See what happens tomorrow. Stoked. Still in the game.

daddys_juicy_dong

“MSOS will run up all this week” Back to where it was before rescheduling 

bomblance

MSOS was so shorted. It does make me wonder if anything was going on to keep the price down today. If this was just natural downward trend that hurts way worse 😭

derprondo

LOL weed stonks I'm just going to continue to hold my MSOS, not trying to play this volatility at all, but god damn that rug was so obviously going to happen.

WilsonTradesMaui

I’m with you. Bought more MSOS calls today ✊🏽

rhamdas

Goddamn! I’m real happy with my MSOS purchase at $11 bucks yesterday. My ability to buy the top with weedstocks is truly un-fucking-canny…

oldschoolczar

Well my stink bid of $9.50 on MSOS just filled. I’m just gonna start swing trading a small position because what I’m doing now hasn’t been working for 3.5 years.