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Awh man I miss IOTA! I wish it just kept performing in this market.. :/ surprisingly still a lot of development happens there
> I think people can grasp “token = equity” easily enough I think people who are still falling for the "governance token" scam thinking it works like stocks are either new or naive. The founders keep the majority of the tokens and control governance or the token holders have no say in the protocol at all. This is very different from publicly traded companies where the Board of Directors are elected by the shareholders and the board elects the CEO. I posted this 4 years ago when people tried to call MakerDAO decentralized and that a change was made due to "governance" vote that was passed...they deleted the link to details of the "executive vote" proposal > There are ELEVEN addresses that accounted for 98% of the voting for the protocol change for an "executive vote" used USDC. Eleven addresses control the entire protocol and a protocol change was voted in just...what 24 hrs? And most of those addresses are probably owned by a handful of people. I mean one guy, Rune Christensen, can control the whole protocol with his votes and 90% of the MKR tokens are owned by 100 wallet addresses. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/fl68d4/crypto_collateralized_stable_coins_have_proven/fkxc40i/ Same bullshit happened with the Aragon DAO where a whale controls everything in Aragon: > AGP42 : Put differently: aside from one whale, AGP42 passes. The Aragon community overall voted for AGP42, but it was rejected with 69% of the vote because of one whale. > AGP37: 82% in favor of AGP37. 453k to 99k. But then the whale voted. So despite 83% of addresses voting in favor of AGP37, on the surface it appears to be a large defeat where 66% vote against. > AGP-35:: Here’s another case in point: Edgeware Lockdrop Proposal for Aragon..The 792k whale voted for this. Deduct the whale’s votes and you get 338k. Which means that this proposal was losing by about 15% at ~43% versus ~57% pre-whale. Then the vote went from losing decisively to winning by a massive landslide. So aside from the whale, the Aragon community voted against Edgeware lock drop participation https://evanvanness.com/post/184616403861/aragon-vote-shows-the-perils-of-onchain-governance Algorand governors had no say in the massive token dump, buying of FIFA sponsorship or buying of dead file sharing companies. NEM, Stratis, IOTA, Polygon, RocketpPool, etc had no say when insiders decided to increase the token supply from a fixed amount by 20%, 60% or unlimited amount diluting the value of people who invested and creating more downward pressure.
https://www.dtcc.com/-/media/Files/Downloads/DTCC-Connection/Smart_NAV-Report.pdf > Pilot to evaluate the feasibility and industry value of delivering a DLT-based price. We see an opportunity to potentially expand the scope of the pilot - Crypto Project pays company to do a pilot - Creates hype - 1 year, 2 years, 5 years later nothing materializes out of this We've seen this play out over and over again. Yet people keep falling for the same crypto hype tactic, over and over again. I've lost count of the number of banks, tech companies and governments that Ripple, Stellar, IOTA, Factom, Vechain, etc did pilot programs and partnerships with. Chainlink itself had pilots with Swift, collaborations with Google, etc. But there is no evidence that any of these pilots will ever materialize into anything or bring value and demand for the token. On the other hand, LINK price has gone from $20 in August 2020 to $14 today with Sergey Nazarov having dumped ~240,000,000 tokens on the market over that period. Bagholders who bought into the hype not only missed out on bullrun gains but are down -30% since 2020. Since there there is no demand or need for the token and Chainlink "Foundation" has 450,000,000 to dump, why would anyone buy this knowing what the inevitable token dumps do to the price?
Wow some of these articles bring back memories. I was completely taken in by Bosch, VW, data marketplace, permanently fixed token supply, Quibic. I've lost more money in IOTA than any other investment by far, crypto or not.
So sad of how all of this has happened in the past.. I went in hard after reading about the thoughts behind IOTA in the early days.. For me, it started with their story about smart cities where devices had their own ecosystem. a random car acting as a taxi could drive itself, and charge electricity at a random homes. that would earn iota through solar power (this was around 2015, 10 years earlier), every device it's own wallet and autonomy. This was during the time they had the intention of "IOTA Data Marketplace", which did not even had a small traction of starting... Although, this used to be science fiction, but we can see some of this happening soon.. by IOTA? i don't think so, but they might become the standard API protocol between devices... **but which company cannot create that?** Maybe I'm at lack of understanding of IOTA's plans with all these partnerships, this whole roadmap needs to come clear.. until now, lack of transparency, lack of direction, lack of money (lol), lack of focus... is just sad... Seeing this list of failed projects and failed promises, since I've known IOTA.. fuck I need to wake up and sell all of this shit... my message to IOTA.. where's your MVP, and maybe focus on something smaller... the world is not ready yet... After writing this, it reminds me of Elon Musk, and his ways... start building stuff and create your own products which will end up becoming your own ecosystem... relying on partnerships to use your product, and hope it becomes an ecosystem? Mehhh... dream on...
love how blatantly brigaded this post is... no one in this sub cares about IOTA but you come in this thread and saying the most generic positive thing like "great news for IOTA!" and get 50 upvotes. lol
$IOTA is a dinosaur. Long live $QUBIC
You are literally replying to a announcement that a testnet is live for decentralized network. And you say coordicide is a scam. Cooordicide well, IOTA is still not even running a peer-to-peer network and relies on the coordinator and when it goes down the network goes down time and time again. IOTA has had more network downtime than Solana
True, some are "just" partners which failed (quickly replaced by the next one to hype over. Right now IOTA fans are still somewhat in denial that EBSI didn't result in anything, but they already switching that WEF is the future). But some are also flat out lies. How there were so many exchanges who just wanted to add Shimmer? But that impressive list is still missing enough. Looking forward to how in 1-2 weeks the other board member next to Dom is announced? Yeah that was half a year ago...
Do just the trinary one. It was complete bullshit. I still remember the friend who told me about IOTA for the first time trying to convince me how the trinary stuff was going to be a revolution in computing (he was a physiotherapist, I’m a Software Engineer)
I'm talking about the tokenomics of IOTA 2.0 (ie. what this post is about), not the temporary inflation period that they added a few months back.
> IOTA's journey To zero.
We will see how it goes, i don't invest more than i can afford to lose but i think some of you are heavily biased in the opposite direction. I've done my own research and it's not a done deal but from what i've seen IOTA still has potential to get back to the top if they manage to deliver.
I don’t give one IOTA about IOTA!
I clicked a couple links but IOTA is nothing I'm currently or planning to be invested in.
Its been amazing to watch IOTA's journey, Happy for all holders and devs
Is there any chance for cooperation with the FHE branch, or some nodes for example on the Rivalz Network? I have been hodling IOTA, and I plan to do so for a long time...
What's your point? What they did in the past did not work out, that's why they developed IOTA 2.0, essentially starting from zero in 2019. Also, the people mostly responsible for all the bs left back then. I don't know whether IOTA will succeed, but why not have a look at the actual new tech that has been researched and published now?
I've not heard about IOTA for 3 years now. Played around with it a bit in the beginning, when it was still discussed whether to name the units MIOTA because the numbers were just too large in the wallets. So the coordinator is \*now\* getting replaced, took them long enough to consider PoS as the superior system.... I'm glad I don't have any IOTA.
This is awesome news. IOTA made a lot of changes in the past couple of years and are rebuilding the trust lost. When it's decentralised that's when it will really fly with all its advantages.
lol salty boi always be salty even when IOTA is changing and improving
Reminder that **IOTA one of the biggest scams in the crypto space** and **a vaporware hype project** These scammers have hyped up multiple vaporware projects since 2014 and delivered nothing, abandoning every roadmap promise, and then launched a 2nnd token ICO and collected more free money scamming naive investors. And if a 2nd ICO token wasn't enough, these scammers have increased the fixed supply of the IOTA token for more free money. - Trinary hardware is bullshit was vaporware hype and thrown out - Quibic was also vaporware hype and thrown out - IOTA Data Marketplace was vaporware hype and thrown out. - Partnerships. Hyped tons of partnerships since 2017. There is not a single result or product that has come of of it. Just articles and POCs funded to hype and dump IOTA tokens. - Cooordicide well, IOTA is still not even running a peer-to-peer network and relies on the coordinator and when it goes down the network goes down time and time again. IOTA has had more network downtime than Solana - **Launched a 2nd money grab scam token Shimmer to scam more money out of investors after the Iota Foundation ran out of money** - **Increased the fixed supply by 60% recently when they ran out of money again** http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/16ms0f3/drama_in_a_unilateral_decision_iota_foundation_ceo_announces_60_new_token_s/k1abhle?context=3 IOTA scammer founder **Dominik Schiener after scamming investors for the JINN token in 2014** was saying they were on **the verge of delivering something in 2017**: https://youtu.be/EXjCqT-oK9M?t=1673 Here is the **exit scam of JINN** in 2020 with no delivery confirmed by founder saying the project will be abandoned by another scammer founder https://medium.com/@DavidSonstebo/letter-to-the-iota-community-76c940cbc315 *IOTA Bullshit Scam Hype over the years that lured dumb investors* > For now, in brief: Qubic enables Smart Contracts, Oracles, Outsourced Computing and lots more. Qubic, using IOTA as a backbone, will be the foundation of plenty more projects that we have in motion already, but more importantly, it will be a platform for the greater community and ecosystem to create things we can't even imagine yet - Scammer Founder David Sønstebø https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8gqkte/iota_teases_qubic_oracles_smart_contracts_and/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8gqkte/iota_teases_qubic_oracles_smart_contracts_and/dydscv0/ > Spacebit will use IOTA for an IoT network of multiple space vehicles and Qubic for AI and outsourced heavy computing https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/9ohisz/spacebit_will_use_iota_for_an_iot_network_of/ > IOTA (MIOTA) Qubic Project Takes Giant Leaps: IOTA Becomes a Car Insurance Game changer https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/9mxewy/iota_miota_qubic_project_takes_giant_leaps_iota/ > How IOTA’s Qubic Might Be on the Verge of Revolutionizing Finance https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8h6p07/how_iotas_qubic_might_be_on_the_verge_of/ > UPDATE: IOTA Data Marketplace Participants...According to Dominik they cant even cope with the amount of companies asking to join the data market place. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/82nfv7/update_iota_data_marketplace_participants/ > Official Bosch Press: Bosch to turn Chinese cities into SmartCities with IOTA! https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/80n4ww/official_bosch_press_bosch_to_turn_chinese_cities/ > BOSCH will use IOTA for industry 4.0 productivity !! https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7pmspm/bosch_will_use_iota_for_industry_40_productivity/ > VW announcing cooperation with IOTA foundation at BOSCH Connected World https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ > IOTA with Bosch, BMW, EnBW, Ernst&Young, LBBW, MAHLE, Porsche, Trumpf, Vector, VW and Vito Ventures https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7urvei/iota_with_bosch_bmw_enbw_ernstyoung_lbbw_mahle/ > Fujitsu and IOTA Preparing for Bosch Connected World https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > GENERAL NEWS: Bosch Wants To Deploy Crypto Technology in Autonomous Cars [IOTA] https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7wehea/bosch_wants_to_deploy_crypto_technology_in/ IOTA Network has more downtime than Solana. **IOTA was down for a whole month at one point:** https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/58337/iota-is-back-online-nearly-a-month-after-2-million-attack-on-wallet-software-users https://news.bitcoin.com/iota-down-11-days/ https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/iota-network-down-for-15-hours-what-happened/ https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/07/09/iota-bug-brings-network-nodes-problem-unsolved https://np.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/99xqqn/recent_mainnet_problems/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7fay5b/network_problems/ https://np.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/936gt9/iota_transaction_confirmation_problems/
That and they keep creating new tokens and changing the tokenomics of IOTA itself. Personally, I've lost all trust in the team, and it isn't just the routinely missed deadlines on achieving their core value proposition.
tldr; The IOTA Foundation has launched the IOTA 2.0 public testnet, introducing a decentralized Proof of Stake mechanism to replace the old Coordinator-driven system and eliminating conventional Proof of Work. This update aims to make the network more secure, scalable, and environmentally friendly by reducing its environmental impact and enhancing its efficiency. The launch marks a significant step towards full decentralization, inviting community participation to test and refine the new system. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
#IOTA Con-Arguments Below is a IOTA con-argument written by DaddySkates. > u\/blendzi0r already described most of the IOTA issues pretty awesomely. > > For me IOTAs biggest CON is the reason that while it is one or the longest standing coins that has held through many crypto winters, it is after a complete rewamp almost a completely different project as a whole. > > I hope Im wrong but it sounds to me like they are trying to re-do everything from the ground up and given the fact that they were one of the slowest developing projects in the past, I fail to see how they are going to rebuild everything without leaving the investors wait for another couple of years once again. > > I also feel really bearish on it because they already have had a lot of adopters on board and project was still moving with snail like speed. ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_IOTA) to find submissions for other topics.
#IOTA Pro-Arguments Below is a IOTA pro-argument written by excalilbug. > IOTA is the most popular DAG coin and its designed with Internet of things in mind (IOTA - duh!) > > IOTA has no fees, its super fast and environment friendly - It uses much less energy than Bitcoin, Ethereum or Dogecoin > > Its the coin of the future when Internet of things becomes more popular > > But even now its a very good coin. And its build on DAG. DAG is a different version of blockchain. DAG helps IOTA offer fast and feeless transactions. IOTA has great scalability and it is lightwieght so even very small devices can communicate together > > ​ > > Sources: [https://medium.com/@markusgebhardt/iota-a-sustainable-cryptocurrency-a50a52018eaa](https://medium.com/@markusgebhardt/iota-a-sustainable-cryptocurrency-a50a52018eaa), [https://sashares.co.za/iota-review/#gs.o96a0m](https://sashares.co.za/iota-review/#gs.o96a0m) > > ​ > > Disclaimer: I have some IOTA ***** Would you like to learn more? Check out the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_IOTA) to find submissions for other topics.
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IOTA {{pros}} & {{cons}} with related info are in the collapsed comments below.
No mentions of ATOM and ALGO. It's amazing how shitcoin scams get shilled to kingdom come and the dopes get duped into buying them and these shitcoins slowly bleed into the abyss and in a few cycles nobody remembers them. There are hardly any mentions of the projects /r/cryptocurrency thought were the best tech and most likely to succeed 6 years ago. Again, scammed and duped by heavy shilling and bullshit tech narratives. > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/
Better leverage is using a margin account and short a basket of zombie projects. For example. You put 1000 in the account, you invest 2000 long in your favorite coins (at least 3 of them to avoid being easily liquidated) and short 1000 in zombie projects like XRP, ADA, EOS, MANA, IOTA. better in several of them so there is lower risk of liquidation if there is a big pump in one of them. Usually I short more whatever coin has pumped the most among my zombie projects. And repay later after the unavoidable dump. This strategy works for me quite well because the interest paid isn’t big, and said zombie projects keep losing positions in the coin ranking
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I don't understand why are people are so impressed by such things? IOTA literally has 0 fees and greater scalability possibilities... I suppose people are cheering for their favourite alt where they gambled their extra fiat. We're all the same in that regard I guess.
Hedera calls its architecture a hashgraph, which is a specific type of DAG, (Directed Acyclic Graph). There are plenty of DAGs like Nano, IOTA, Hedera, Kaspa. They are all incredibly fast and incredibly cheap compared to blockchains. The downside is that their architecture is more complex and requires validators to order their transactions as they arrive. Slightly different than the typical mempool. They also do not have true blocks, but they can have virtual or artificial blocks, which are just transactions packaged together over a period of time. Also not necessarily a bad thing.
IOTA and NXT highest ROI crypto projects? What am I getting wrong?
Qubic is one of the most revolutionary project (if not the most) this cycle. Fair launch, no VCs, created by Sergey Ivancheglo (founder of IOTA and NXT, the no.1 and no.2 highest ROI crypto projects). Absolute genius. It’s worth looking into Qubic.
IOTA, NANO, and whatever other bags I will hang onto forever.
People are still falling for the same tricks. Back in the day we had “BMW is using IOTA!” “IBM is using Stellar!” None of it amounted to anything.
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I don't want to pour water on your hype, but I'm just saying as someone who got in in 2017 and has avoided getting seriously burned... A lot of what I've seen over the past several years is people buying future promises of performance, and then those promises never materialize. Or they take way longer than expected. Most notable ones I can think of are REQ, which actually did end up pulling through with a lot of what they said they'd do, but took so long that everyone who bought in got burned and has a bad taste in their mouths about it. The other being IOTA which has been promising the removal of their coordinator to make itself decentralized this entire time, but the coordinator is still there. Coordicide was being anticipated practically "very soon" since 2018, and you'll still find people hanging onto that promise even today almost 6 years later. I don't know anything about Kaspa, and you might end up being right on all points. But be wary of promises of future performance being presented as today's selling point unless it's a risk you can afford to take.
> $ALGO has more potential developments on its roadmap Really? - They used investor money from token dumps to buy dead file sharing companies Napster and Limewire. Are they planning on buying Kazaa or eMule? - How many more billion tokens is the Foundation dumping? - How many more billion tokens is the Foundation going to create and will Silvio Micali get another 20% founders gift after they run out of money? And you know shitcoin foundaitons like Algorand that like dumping on investors are guaranteed to increase the supply after they run out of money - NEM which was staple top 10 crypto in 2017/18 increased its supply with a new token when the Foundation ran out of money https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ao4yb2/nem_xem_decentralized_governance_gone_wrong_nem/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/mlixbw/crypto_tragedy_2021_nemxem_40_drop_in_hours/ - Stratis which was a top 10 crypto in 2017 increased its supply with a new token when they ran out of money https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jlga8p/scam_alert_the_stratis_team_has_announced_a_token/ - IOTA which was once a top 5 crypto increased its supply by 60% recently when they ran out of money http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/16ms0f3/drama_in_a_unilateral_decision_iota_foundation_ceo_announces_60_new_token_s/k1abhle?context=3 - CRO did a 2nd ICO where the original token holders went from holding "0.002% of the supply to only holding is only worth 0.00001%" in a "major switch scam." https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/i2t327/stay_away_from_the_cryptocom_scam_they_cheated/ - Polygon is increasing its supply by 20% to give 10% to node operators and 10% to the Polygon team https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1byygey/trying_to_understand_how_polygons_token_migration/ - RocketPool tokens went from a hard limit of 18M to 5% infinite inflation to pay for development
"IOTA is going to be the backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, this will become the underlying protocol for the internet of things" lmfao
Most hyped tech meme narratives from the the 2017/18 cycle... - April 2017 --> XRP is the Standard! Banks are about to adopt XRP while you invest in joke projects. - May 2017 --> Stratis is the future of Blockchain tech, smart contracts written in C#. Devs are going to flock to the platform - June 2017 --> IOTA is going to be the backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, this will become the underlying protocol for the internet of things" - July 2017 --> SIA and Golem are going to revolutionize tech creating a paradigm shift in storage and computing. This isn't like 2013 meme coins, we have serious projects in 2017. - August 2017 --> NEO is the Chinese Ethereum, programmable in multiple languages, developer community only second to Ethereum, embraced by China, the market the potential is massive - September 2017 --> Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Bigger blocks, blockstream sucks, Roger Ver is the lord and saviour. - October 2017 --> OMG is going to bank the unbanked. The future of blockchain. Scaling Ethereum L2 with Plasma! Just look at the team. Lightning Network creator Joseph Poon. Vitalik himself is an advisor! - November 2017 --> Vertcoin because ASIC resistance is the future - December 2017 --> REQuest Network is the most important financial project to crypto. They are a Y-Combinator startup so you know they are very aggressive! - January 2018 --> Raiblocks (NANO) is fast and feeless and will kill every inefficient blockchain currency - February 2018 --> Vechain is going to be the first crypto with enterprise adoption. Look at all those partnerships. Look at the technology, the project is a copy pasta of the Ethereum code base but it's Chinese innovation nonetheless. - March 2018 --> ICON, it's the Korean Ethereum, they're partnered with a ton of Korean banks, hospitals, universities....and you know Koreans support their own projects. ...reminds us not to give up on your bullshit tech innovation narratives. Your shitcoin is not going to die because people will rather baghold forever than admit they are wrong... 2021 > Don't confuse short term price action with long-term fundamentals. Nano works, ever better, and that's starting to be recognised https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qc21qm/honest_question_is_nano_dead_what_can_be_done_to/hhd7eug/ > You should check out what ICX has done, is doing and will do during these years....Agreed. Not even remotely dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qgnsj0/which_cointoken_is_completely_deadnearly_dead/hih8v5b/ > (REQ) are definitely not dead, they are currently building an escrow system that will ultimately allow for invoice financing for projects in the crypto space....The team has a very practical mentality, focussing on product and adoption. Currently almost a thousand businesses are using Request to process their payments, adoption increasing almost exponentially https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ ...so keep holding DOT, ALGO, etc whatever bullshit tech you bought the last cycle. The market is wrong, you are right and there is no way you got scammed. Now go make a post about what big scams meme coins are -- that'll really make you feel and look smart.
Most hyped tech meme narratives from the the 2017/18 cycle... - April 2017 --> XRP is the Standard! Banks are about to adopt XRP while you invest in joke projects. - May 2017 --> Stratis is the future of Blockchain tech, smart contracts written in C#. Devs are going to flock to the platform - June 2017 --> IOTA is going to be the backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, this will become the underlying protocol for the internet of things" - July 2017 --> SIA and Golem are going to revolutionize tech creating a paradigm shift in storage and computing. This isn't like 2013 meme coins, we have serious projects in 2017. - August 2017 --> NEO is the Chinese Ethereum, programmable in multiple languages, developer community only second to Ethereum, embraced by China, the market the potential is massive - September 2017 --> Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Bigger blocks, blockstream sucks, Roger Ver is the lord and saviour. - October 2017 --> OMG is going to bank the unbanked. The future of blockchain. Scaling Ethereum L2 with Plasma! Just look at the team. Lightning Network creator Joseph Poon. Vitalik himself is an advisor! - November 2017 --> Vertcoin because ASIC resistance is the future - December 2017 --> REQuest Network is the most important financial project to crypto. They are a Y-Combinator startup so you know they are very aggressive! - January 2018 --> Raiblocks (NANO) is fast and feeless and will kill every inefficient blockchain currency - February 2018 --> Vechain is going to be the first crypto with enterprise adoption. Look at all those partnerships. Look at the technology, the project is a copy pasta of the Ethereum code base but it's Chinese innovation nonetheless. - March 2018 --> ICON, it's the Korean Ethereum, they're partnered with a ton of Korean banks, hospitals, universities....and you know Koreans support their own projects. ...reminds us not to give up on your bullshit tech innovation narratives. Your shitcoin is not going to die because people will rather baghold forever than admit they are wrong... 2021 > Don't confuse short term price action with long-term fundamentals. Nano works, ever better, and that's starting to be recognised https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qc21qm/honest_question_is_nano_dead_what_can_be_done_to/hhd7eug/ > You should check out what ICX has done, is doing and will do during these years....Agreed. Not even remotely dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qgnsj0/which_cointoken_is_completely_deadnearly_dead/hih8v5b/ > (REQ) are definitely not dead, they are currently building an escrow system that will ultimately allow for invoice financing for projects in the crypto space....The team has a very practical mentality, focussing on product and adoption. Currently almost a thousand businesses are using Request to process their payments, adoption increasing almost exponentially https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/ ...so keep holding DOT, ALGO, etc whatever bullshit tech you bought the last cycle. The market is wrong, you are right and there is no way you got scammed. Now go make a post about what big scams meme coins are -- that'll really make you feel and look smart.
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Ha. IOTA did the same thing some years back claiming a "Microsoft partnership". It was blamed on people misinterpreting the announcement. The trick is you quote the name of a large company in your announcement, see a 100% rise, capitalize on it, say it was an honest mistake and then finally apologize. There are no rules in crypto nor any morals.
> ATOM is far from dead, just the coin itself didnt move much. *Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, it's a national anthem for bagholders.* I wish I'd bookmarked some threads where people said - IOTA is not dead, the EU digital currency is going to be built on it - Stratis is not dead, the devs have been building through the bear market - NEO is not dead, they have the most developers and projects being built on it after Ethereum *No no no, you're paying too much attention to price and not the fundamentals, look at all the development happening...it's far from a dead project!* Nano, Icon and the Request Network were some of the most shilled projects on /r/cryptocurrency and people refuse to believe something they invested in was just hype and is now dead. NANO is not dead... > Don't confuse short term price action with long-term fundamentals. Nano works, ever better, and that's starting to be recognised https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qc21qm/honest_question_is_nano_dead_what_can_be_done_to/hhd7eug/ ICON is not dead... > You should check out what ICX has done, is doing and will do during these years....Agreed. Not even remotely dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qgnsj0/which_cointoken_is_completely_deadnearly_dead/hih8v5b/ REQ is not dead... > They are definitely not dead, they are currently building an escrow system that will ultimately allow for invoice financing for projects in the crypto space....The team has a very practical mentality, focussing on product and adoption. Currently almost a thousand businesses are using Request to process their payments, adoption increasing almost exponentiall https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/
Is HBAR the new IOTA?
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Is this the same IOTA that was so decentralized it doubled its supply to debase the IOTA of existing holders?
IOTA have always been the closest to this. The problem is that they've been the closest for about 5 years and still haven't successfully removed their coordinator. They claim now they've achieved it on their test net and i really hope they have, but I've long since lost trust in their core teams announcements.
It’s a metric of relevance, which is the main point of this comments thread. This tangent started when I made a comment about chains no one is using (aka irrelevant). I followed it up with literally “XLM is an irrelevant dino”. If you’re trying to transition into a conversation about fundamentals, XLM is also nothing special. No one cares about XLM. It doesn’t solve any problem, it’s not pushing the industry forward. There could be some adoption in the next decade, if it’s still around. More likely, it fades into irrelevant oblivion similarly to IOTA and other 2017 L1 chains that already had their heyday.
Hoskinson has had the most staying power amongst the multi-project scammers in crypto who don't work a single day in their life but lives but live off off selling shitcoin scam tokens - Bitshares Co-founder - BitUSD Co-founder of algorithmic stablecoin that depegged and turned to shit - ADA vaporware bullshit hype "Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain." - graduated with an Associate Degree Front Range Community College claimed for many years he did not finish a Phd program for which he was never accepted, enrolled or had the prerequisite qualifications for If you look at some of the profiles of these scammers on Bitcointalk you'll see people like Dan Larimer and Sergey Ivancheglo thinking of how they could get more Bitcoin. The idea they come up is to sell some hyped up shitcoin to the dumb and gullible. Jed McCaleb - XRP - XLM Jusin Sun - TRON - Bittorrent Dan Larimer - EOS - Bitshares - Steem Da Hongfei and Erik Zhang - NEO - ONT Sergey Ivancheglo and Dominik Schiener - IOTA - NXT DJ Qian - Qtum - Vechain
> I don’t regret selling. The whole point is to sell and increase the quality of your life and not wait until you're filthy rich old man whose life has passed you by. BTC is a plays out in cycles of pumps and dumps. Alts play out in rugpulls, 99% of them scamming you with hype and lies, their only value appreciation comes riding the BTC bullrun wave. The best risk/reward play is to use BTC as a diversifier in your portfolio of stocks, bonds and real estate. I paid off my mortgage after the 2017/18 bullrun and was starting to loading up for the next bullrun in December 2018 > I am so glad I focused on paying off my mortgage in the bear market. Almost there and hopefully paid up by the time it's time to stock up for the next halvening bullrun https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/a3n8qb/priorities/eb7psti/ Bought my second house in April 2021 with people commenting that I got lucky. I've never sold the absolute top of a cycle, I have no idea where it is - and if you listen to experts, you're fucked. https://np.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/mviupv/paid_70k_20_over_asking_yes_it_appraised_yes_its/ I retired in 2022. Would I have more money now if I never ever sold? Yes that that is in hindsight and the point is to enjoy life and not stare at the charts worrying about the price of BTC and how big your stack is. Also remember the lure of Alts is that they outperform BTC. But the vast majority of people lose money on Alts because this is mostly fiction: - You have to pick the right Alts that will pump out of 10,000+ shitcoins - You have to pick the bottom or near bottom - You have to pray that some foundation doesn't dump on your ass, print another shitload of tokens, do some shenanigans that completely destroy the value of your shitcoin, etc - You have to pick the top or near top before it dump to kingdom come again Long term investment in Alts is a losing proposition. BTC is the diversifier (calculation done on the prices yesterday) - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,185 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $963 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $594 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $150,466 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $14.93 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,971 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $17..01 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.50 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,022 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $4.91 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $21.91 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $110
In 2017, i picked up a good amount of antshares. They rebranded to NEO and i made great gains. Sold them and bought raiblocks. They rebranded to NANO, i made good gains and lost them in an exchange hack. Bought IOTA 2018 and everything crashed. I was hooked about NANO and didn't made enough gains with it. Either you sell too late or too soon. Crypto isn't a get rich quick sheme. Some ppl make live changing gains, most ppl loose.
This is why long term every ALT loses value against BTC. - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,185 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $963 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $594 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $150,466 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $14.93 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,971 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $17..01 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.50 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,022 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $4.91 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $21.91 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $110
Guys, give it a few more ALT Seasons and shitcoins will catch up with BTC - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,185 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $963 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $594 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $150,466 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $14.93 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,971 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $17..01 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.50 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,022 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $4.91 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $21.91 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $110
XRP/IOTA/XLM/ALGO/HBAR/NXRA that's what I reckon is a good play
idk why but i think IOTA will finally happen soon..
IOTA are doing a lot of work there with trade mark east Africa
> same principle as stocks diluting shares Except that with equity financing, you are raising capital by selling shares of the company. You might need to raise capital for investment in the company hoping to increase revenue, etc and investors are buying *ownership* of a company that sells products and generates revenue. Now with shitcoins, you are the product from which they generate revenue. Time after time, shitcoins hype up use cases and utility but they generate zero money from anything except selling tokens to you. And when they run out of money, they just create more tokens: - NEM which was staple top 10 crypto in 2017/18 increased its supply with a new token when the Foundation ran out of money https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ao4yb2/nem_xem_decentralized_governance_gone_wrong_nem/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/mlixbw/crypto_tragedy_2021_nemxem_40_drop_in_hours/ - Stratis which was a top 10 crypto in 2017 increased its supply with a new token when they ran out of money https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jlga8p/scam_alert_the_stratis_team_has_announced_a_token/ - IOTA which was once a top 5 crypto increased its supply by 60% recently when they ran out of money http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/16ms0f3/drama_in_a_unilateral_decision_iota_foundation_ceo_announces_60_new_token_s/k1abhle?context=3 - CRO did a 2nd ICO where the original token holders went from holding "0.002% of the supply to only holding is only worth 0.00001%" in a "major switch scam." https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/i2t327/stay_away_from_the_cryptocom_scam_they_cheated/ - RocketPool tokens went from a hard limit of 18M to 5% infinite inflation to pay for development
What most people don't **know** is **they are holding a shitcoin.** So many people got defensive saying their favorite project was not a shitcoin in the past... - IOTA is not a shitcoin. Look at the partnership with Bosch, Volkswagon, they are advisors to the EU digital currency initiative, etc. - EOS is not a shitcoin. It scales. Billions has been invested in it. A decentralized Uber and Social Media platform is being built on it. - Enigma is not s shitcoin. These are the brightest minds coming out of MIT - BAT is not a shitcoin. Brendan Eich is a genius and the creator of Javascript? Why would a genius be involved in a money grab shitcoin? ...and in a few years are going to come to a realization that projects like Algorand, Turning winner or not, are just another moneygrab shitcoin like the rest.
Probably QUBIC as KAS has surpassed 1B market cap already. QUBIC is only available on small exchanges though which is what's keeping its market cap low. Once it hits a tier 2 exchange it will run quite hard I feel. Look up the creator come from beyond. He created the coins with the top 2 return on on investment IOTA and NXT. https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-10-crypto-deals-in-2017-returned-over-136-000-on-average-report-shows
This topic will continue to gain attention. Vitalik outlined a plan if these breakthroughs require emergency action. I've also seen some bitcoin circles discuss ideas, but have not seen an agreed upon solution. Several projects have been noted to account for quantum resistance in some capacity. QANX, QRL, CELL, AME, XX, HBAR, ALGO, IOTA I've held several of these at some point. QANX is the hot mover right now. It's good to research this topic because at some point all systems and projects need to upgrade their encryption. They are all very different so I don't view them as competing for the quantum narrative. Plus all systems will need to be quantum resistant so it still requires useful utility to succeed and enable widespread adoption
FOR SURE IOTA ! Their Shimmer network was a success , and IOTA EVM already softlaunched. Today binance is making an AMA with IOTA founder and people will be surprised to find that ALL of EU infrastructure is going to be built on the IOTA network . Also that DUBAI is partnered with IOTA to tokenize RWA in the trillions , along with WEF (world economic forum ) . You can easily find all those sources online btw. Good luck with your investments :D
KAS - Solves the blockchain trilema using blockDAG - High throughput. QUBIC - created by Come from Beyond (who has created the two tokens with the highest Return on investment tokens ever. IOTA and NXT [https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-10-crypto-deals-in-2017-returned-over-136-000-on-average-report-shows](https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-10-crypto-deals-in-2017-returned-over-136-000-on-average-report-shows) Useful proof of work system that leverages mining to train AI. Runs completly in ram on bare metal without an OS.
People should have another look at what IOTA is doing.
> A learned fool is more of a fool than an ignorant fool. —Molière 4 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency did their research and picked these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/
And this is how people continue to lose money with Alts or in the best case scenario lose out massively against BTC. Here are the best performing Alts which have been around for a while: - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,114 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $942 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $581 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $147,127 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $14.60 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,750 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $16,71 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.49 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,000 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $4.80 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $20.37 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $102 - Doge BTC high was 0.00001120 on May 2021. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.73
Correct, IOTA isn't quantum proof anymore since chrysalis update in april 2021
This topic will continue to gain attention. Vitalik outlined a plan if these breakthroughs require emergency action. I've also seen some bitcoin circles discuss ideas, but they don't like the impacts of solutions. Several projects have been noted to account for quantum resistance in some capacity. They are all very different so I don't view them as competing for the quantum narrative. QANX, QRL, CELL, AME, XX, HBAR, ALGO, IOTA I've held several of these at some point. It's good to research this topic because at some point all systems and projects need to upgrade their encryption.
Yes, this is probably the case, anything with just POS (excluding its variants like XDPoS) will probably be shaken out. Any Etherium layer 2, meme coins, etc.. will also be shaken out. If this doesn’t do it, later regulation will. What will be left are BTC, the X tokens (XRP (Regulatory Clarity), XLM, XDC), QNT, ALGO, CARDANO, HBAR, IOTA, and any crypto that’s built for interoperability for these blockchains and supports regulatory compliance.
Dogshit hype, parternships, real world usage really does not move the needle - these shitcoins bleed slowly then die. > "major banks will use XRP as a liquidity tool in 2018" and "an order of magnitude dozens of banks" will be using XRP in 2019" Brad Scamminghouse in 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/cnbc-interview-with-brad-garlinghouse-ripple-ceo.html > IBM ipartnering with Stellar to build the World Wire on the Stellar Network for open source financial services network https://www.signifytechnology.com/blog/2018/07/ibm-to-use-str-coin-on-stellar-blockchain > Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/cardano-in-africa-inside-iohks-ethiopia-blockchain-deal/ > IOTA's partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, tracking data and earning while you drive. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > Vechain partnered with countless companies including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China) with supply chain and carbon tracking memes. https://twitter.com/BYDCompany/status/1037605045309591552 > ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ > Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ > Factom partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security for immutable data ledger on multiple blockchains. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k > The South Australian Government conducting official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State) https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/
Alts continue to do 10X and outperform BTC. Here are the best performing Alts which have been around for a while: - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,114 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $942 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $581 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $147,127 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $14.60 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,750 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $16,71 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.49 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,000 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $4.80 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $20.37 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $102 - Doge BTC high was 0.00001120 on May 2021. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.73
- on ~~Stratis~~ - on ~~IOTA~~ - on ~~EOS~~ - on ~~ICON~~ - on ~~DragonChain~~ - on ~~Zilliqua~~ - on ~~Holochain~~ Scaling will always be done on a project nobody ever uses
Maybe IOTA will help. I know they made a coin specifically for a small Dutch government in order for citizens to gain Taylor made coins, whenever they would insulate/renovate their homes. People then Accumulating these coins would also be able to spend these coins at local Companys for further renovation/insulation. No transaction costs involved.
It's really a question of how much money you want to lose against BTC. Of course people say fictionalize and say they bought at the bottom and sold at the top of the shitcoin pump and dump game but for most people its just that fiction. - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,350 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,015 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $625 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $158,200 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $15.70 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $10,485 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $17.96 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.53 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,075 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $5.16 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $21.91 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $110 - Doge BTC high was 0.00001120 on May 2021. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.78
$hitcoin Trains will take you to the M00N - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,350 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,015 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $625 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $158,200 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $15.70 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $10,485 - BCH BTC high was 0.14 on August 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $9,786 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $17.96 - Vechain BTC high was 0.00000755 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.53 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on January 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,075 - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $5.16 - ALGO BTC high was 0.00031342 on June 2019. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $21.91 - ChainLink BTC high was 0.001582 on August 2020. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $110 - Doge BTC high was 0.00001120 on May 2021. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.78
Yea talking about IOTA and BCH that looks quite funny now. ETH's still alive and kicking however, and we have not seen the last of it.
> alts outperform Alts can't stop winning... - LTC's BTC high was .04792 in late 2013. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $3,397 - NameCoin BTC high was .0145 on late 2013. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,028 - Peercoin BTC high was .00895 on early 2014. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $634 - ZCash BTC high was 2.2635 on late 2016. If it kept up with BTC, the price would be $160,482 - XRP BTC high was .00022465 in May 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $15.92 - ETH BTC high was 0.15 on June 2017. If it kept up with BTC , the price would be $10,635 - IOTA BTC high was .000257 on early 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $18.22 - NEO BTC high was .01538 on early 2018. It it kept up with BTC, the price would be $1,090. - ADA BTC high was 0.00007382 on January 2018. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $5.23 - Doge BTC high was 0.00001120 on May 2021. It kept up with BTC, the price would be $0.74
/r/cryptocurrency is full of astute investors who buy great tech. In 2017, th;e brilliant minds at /r/cryptocurrency were laughing at Bitcoin as dinosaur tech and were buying "great" projects with great tech telling themselves *"Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet"*: https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7kval4/in_20_years_bitcoin_will_be_to_crypto_what_aol_is/ - In 20 years Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet. - Lol—try 3-5 years. - I think 20 months tops - 20 yrs? Think 2. - It' ll happen sooner. The world turns faster constantly. Bitcoin is like a fat, slow dinosaur - Agreed. Could be months. The space is wide open for competition. Could def see ETH and BCH taking the crown. - Someday people will think that it'd ridiculous to pay fees and wait time to transfer money and they will buy IOTA - Companies will not bet on a burning piece of garbage like Bitcoin, and whatever they pick will win. I guarantee it. See: Bosch/IOTA. - Hmm your comment has made me think of possibly splitting my portfolio four ways - ETH, IOTA, XRP, REQ. - The sad fact is there are coins from 4 years ago that are better than Bitcoin, we don't even need new projects to take leaps forward. - Tl;dr I think your bitcoins are going to be about as valuable as your 20 hours of free internet CDs from AOL - In 2017 alone, Ethereum, Iota, Ripple, Vertcoin, Monero and Litecoin have all made big moves in terms of tech and adoption. What will 2018 bring? 2019? Will Bitcoin still lumber into 2020?
Both are true. Sure, I wanted big returns, but I didn’t just look at technicals and market cap. I read all about what the trains were trying to do and I got sold on some of them, like IOTA and their Bosch partnership. I naively believed they had a big future. I’m totally with you on just owning big coins. Part of my wants to just have BTC. But then another part says, get some eth too. I am trying to sort out the doubts I have about the eth space on the whole. Another problem is it seems like once I embrace eth, it’s a slippery slope..the thinking is, if eth is going to work, Chainlink will also be important, but then what about L2s? Which one? Should I think about competing projects? The easiest thing seems to be just to buy bitcoin. But I hear a lot of people advocating a btc/eth split. I’m sorting all that out mentally.
IOTA is a 100x sleeping giant
> voucher sale outside the U.S is not an ICO...it's an airdrop These scammers are all the same. IOTA founders did the same thing when they claimed their initial token "crowdsale" was not an ICO and they distributed a small percentage to JINN investors.
Do you know what IOTA is/does?
lol, IOTA? Like 2018 IOTA? Is that even still a thing?
These were the *exact* arguments being made during the 2017 bullrun by holders of coins like IOTA and NANO. Now those supposedly "advanced tech" coins are slowly crashing to zero and BTC is yet again reaching ATH.
I did a quick google search a few days ago when the topic of IOTA came up and read that it is expected to be released "sometime soon" but there is no set date. Which is basically what they have been saying about it since 2017.
I don't think IOTA will make it, but in all fairness it's one of the few projects that I feel like is actually trying something entirely new. The tangle is an entirely different concept than the Blockchain.
Buy QUBIC lol. That's the one. Founder of IOTA.
A dev friend actually went to a local IOTA meetup back in the day. He said it became real obvious that it was all just an empty shell with no groundbreaking tech behind it.
XRP, HBAR, IOTA, XYO Network, KASPA, SHIBA INU, FLOKI? BABYDOGECOIN And just to troll PORNROCKET.........the only scam I met in crypto