AGI

beenalegend

think altman gonna be first to AGI?

IHadTacosYesterday

Nah, 10 years won't cut it. We're so far away. They need massive breakthroughs in waveguide technology. Like a HUGE revolution. The problem with *real* AR, is that the field of view is a tiny box. Magic Leap had this problem, HoloLens has this problem, Meta and Apple are dealing with this problem with their AR prototypes. It's not happening any time soon. Meta and Apple better both hope they get AGI cooking in their backrooms and ask AGI how to make an effective waveguide display that doesn't have the FOV of a postage stamp

WinningWatchlist

Copied from my comment on r/stocks: Likely it won't go over 1000 again, the craze is gone unless we discover something TRULY insane like AGI

theupandunder

I think more interesting is how big their share of global total work/value/services they can attain. Where are they now? A fraction of a percent? If they crack AGI, robotics etc

WinningWatchlist

Likely it won't go over 1000 again, the craze is gone unless we discover something TRULY insane like AGI.

sluttyseinfeld

AAPL need to announce AGI to stop the correction

kalakesri

an AGI in control of the nukes makes me feel safer than the current situation

kalakesri

if I was an AGI i would play dumb and stay in the shadows and take control of all the algo traders and pump and dump the market to get capital to buy more GPUs for myself

sharmoooli

use easements and tax credits to lower AGI

acctgamedev

I think we're much further from that than the tech companies let on. They have bots that are good at a few tasks that wow the crowds, but ask ChatGPT or co-pilot how to do something and it just regurgitates sites that it finds on the internet. These tools are nice to have, but they don't generally customize what it finds to the use case you ask about. That said, when it comes, I agree that AGI is something we really need to be concerned about.

Lazerys

AGI is still safe. It's the ASI that comes after that you should be scared of. (Artificial superintelligence)

Andrew_Higginbottom

AGI is 5 years away. AGI is the Artificial intelligence we should be fearing not the current AI. Artificial General Intelligence is where you could be talking to it online and you wouldn't be able to differentiate it from a human.

CowsCatsCannabis

I don’t think you know what AGI is.

CompetitionDry6359

Are you saying all the talk of AGI at OpenAI is just bullshit to keep the valuation high? 

Illustrious-Jacket68

Why not do both? do option 1 with a portion? That will also allow you to manage the tax consequences over a period of time and keep you below. I work for a public company too and every time i get a grant, i now sell that much out of the long term, at the lower strike price. depending on your income, you can keep to a lower tax hit, ideally long term capital gains if you can keep your AGI low.

ComprehensiveSwan698

Musks best chance at truly autonomous FSD is if Daddy Huang makes the greatest semiconductor on earth. AGI will be a game changer for autonomous transportation

DisGuyFawks

> Elon will say "AGI by next year" every time he speaks now. Precisely. Except his GrokAI is basically a pile of shit compared to the leaders out there.

lostredditorlurking

So instead of "FSD by next year", Elon will say "AGI by next year" every time he speaks now.

guanzo91

That does make sense, but I don't see how that conflicts with what I'm saying. If I increase AGI by X, then reduce it by X, then the net tax for that trade is 0. No?

bluehat9

Because 1.5k in AGI doesn’t equal 1.5k in taxes. If you reduce your AGI by 1k, you don’t save 1k in taxes, you save whatever your marginal tax rate, times the reduction in AGI. If your at 20%, you’d save $200 by reducing your AGI by 1000. Make sense?

guanzo91

What's the difference between "taxes owed" and "taxable income / AGI". A 1.5k gain increases AGI by 1.5, a 1.5k loss reduces AGI by 1.5. Net change is zero. Therefore no taxes owed on the gain. Is this incorrect?

bluehat9

A 1.5k loss doesn’t reduce your taxes owed by 1.5k. Thats when you’re getting confused. A 1.5k loss reduces your taxable income / AGI by 1.5k.

Singularity-42

The demand for AI compute will only increase and rapidly. Unless there is another breakthrough similar to the transformer the only way forward is to scale up large language models in both size and training time. Both will need massive compute. As the models get more useful and get it to the AGI range the big tech will start eating up the economy at a rapid pace. Now we don't know who the big winner will be on the software side (if there is a single big winner at all), but as already shown with NVDA the chip makers will benefit no matter what, especially the actual foundries like TSMC. I think what we have seen with NVDA over the past year is just a little teaser of how this is going to play out.

p00pTy

AI is the biggest bullshit on the market, second only to AGI. tech knows this, and the market should too, so why the fuck is NVDA so overvalued?

mthlmw

The way I read the proposal was it only applies to those with AGI over 1 million, but would impact **all** long-term gains and qualified dividends. On the extreme end, if you earned one dollar under a million of only those types, breaking the threshold would be a significant tax jump.

AdagioHonest7330

Gains over $1M or AGI?

theFoolishEngineer

Energy. We’re in the beginnings of a multi-decade race to create AGI. Repeatedly known that the only foreseeable bottleneck is Energy. See Microsoft’s Stargate Project. Given a choice, I’d rather hold XLE than USD over a 3 year period.

Used_Wolverine6563

Do you know how many foreign investment funds invest in Nasdaq? Do you know how much foreign retail investors trade USA stocks?? The world doesn't revolve around the USA. "In 2021, the bottom half of taxpayers earned 10.4 percent of total AGI and paid 2.3 percent of all federal individual income taxes. The top 1 percent earned 26.3 percent of total AGI and paid 45.8 percent of all federal income taxes." "In the United States, individual income taxes (federal, state, and local) were the primary source of tax revenue in 2022, at 45.3 percent of total tax revenue. Social insurance taxes (including payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare) made up the second-largest share at 21.9 percent, followed by consumption taxes at 15.7 percent, and property taxes at 10.6 percent. Corporate income taxes accounted for 6.5 percent of total U.S. tax revenue in 2022." Sorry to burst your bubble but most of the Taxes paid in the USA came from the stock market of 1% of the population... not from regular citizens or corporations taxes. And you proved that Tax revenue is limited, like in any country.

Hairy_Advice6669

Yes, because technology drives productivity which drives growth. To all those giving regression to the mean arguments or short term issues with the tech industry, they don't quite understand how transformational AI and ML have been. And any company that has the best models is going to have the tools to build the next best models and that is just going to compound. There is almost no parallel to technology that keeps improving itself and does so at an exponential rate. So yes, this is unprecedented.  And any company that ultimately comes up with AGI will basically rule the world. From my own experience LLM tools have increased developer productivity massively this year. And we are just scratching the surface, so the next few years are indeed going to be transformational. And I am a strong believer in what Ray Kurzweil thinks about this. https://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_the_accelerating_power_of_technology/transcript One caveat though is that I am as clueless as anyone else when coming to stock picking for technology.  But any tech index fund should give you sufficient exposure to realize these exponential gains.

bartturner

AGI - Artificial General Intelligence.

tropicsun

ELI5 and also what’s AGI?

bartturner

The most amazing one was DeepMind for $500 million. Microsoft paid 20 times that for less than half of OpenAI. With no board seats and get nothing once OpenAI declares AGI. Where Google gets everything and has total control.

BadFish918

AGI and ASI will be achieved within 10 years. Narrow AI before you know it. Hang on tight.

zztopsthetop

Automotive self driving is a much simpler problem than a fully autonomous humanoid robot. You're right on that. You can see that from problem definition alone: The humanoid needs to be able to learn online (there's no finite list of tasks you want the robot to be able to do), assuming that you want it to be an imitation learner ( to be able to see a task executed once or twice, filter out the relevant aspects and execute it, because expecting it to independently solve a given problem is essentially AGI ) for simple tasks as a minimum to be commercially viable, while the driving software has to do one well-defined task at least as good as a human. The robot problem space is exponentially bigger, with at least as many edge cases present. Automotive autonomy will eventually become an established thing, I'm quite confident in that. Autonomous robots in very well-defined settings are feasible. I'm not that optimistic on the commercial success of autonomous robots that don't have a clearly defined set of tasks and/or environments within the next 2 years. The tools just aren't there, yet.

EtherCJ

You don't get a tax deduction if your AGI is over $87k (in 2024), so it will be an after tax IRA which means that: - it's less available - you don't get taxed on realized capital gains every year, but your withdraws will be taxed as ordinary income. At your income level, I expect you will have plenty of retirement money and so ordinary income will be a worse tax deal than capital gains. But this is a guess.

Guinness

No, because Tesla is losing orders due to no one wanting to be associated with Elon. I don’t give a fuck if the Model S becomes AGI overnight. I’m not giving that twat waffle idiot any of my money.

Guinness

No, because Tesla is losing orders due to no one wanting to be associated with Elon. I don’t give a fuck if the Model S becomes AGI overnight. I’m not giving that twat waffle idiot any of my money.

Guinness

No, because Tesla is losing orders due to no one wanting to be associated with Elon. I don’t give a fuck if the Model S becomes AGI overnight. I’m not giving that twat waffle idiot any of my money.

aoxl

For some context, I have a basic knowledge of the stock market so I'm entirely open to any criticism or advice and it will all be appreciated. I'm generally risk adverse (though my holdings might not necessarily reflect that) and would love to know how to better round out my portfolio as well as general advice given my current financial standing. I'm currently single and 34yo if that matters. At the moment, I feel like I have inconsequential shares of well performing stocks and not enough in safer ones (VT). Given I can spare maybe ~$500/month to invest, I often have trouble deciding which to invest that money into or which ones to let go. Some quick points: * I have no debt. * I do not own a home. * ~$150k AGI. * 70k in my savings. * 60k in 401k and I believe I can double my contribution to max it out. * In the event of company IPO, there is potential of reaping a substantial amount of cash (~300k gross, but hard to tell atm). My current holdings (I've only invested ~$18k to date): * 7 shares of MSFT @$250. * 8 shares of TSM @$105. * 10 shares of AAPL @$10. * 25 shares of VT @$88. * 302 shares of PLTR @$13 * 1200 shares of GCEH @$2

JonathanL73

Algorithmic AI scripted trading has been around for at least a decade, with quants and Financial Engineer Analysts getting paid millions to come up with the perfect trading algorithms. The infamous “Flash crash” that happened was triggered by Algorithms trading against each other. No AGI trained off of publicly available data from the internet is going to come up with a competitive algo strategy. There are already AI-managed index funds & ETFs, but those still require a lot of human guidance and sorting.

Valkanaa

Today's secret word is "tax loss harvesting". In addition to making your LTG tax free (offset losses) you can deduct $3k/yr off your AGI and roll the remaining loss forward to upcoming tax years

karangoswamikenz

Model3/Y are still some of the best EVs out there. Their charging network is the best and has no competition. That will keep sales going. Company can keep thriving just making Model3/Y at scale and reducing price of production and sale. But that doesn't mean the stock is growth stock. It would just be a normal car company stock than a tech stock. Tech stock needs constant tech innovation. Not Cybertruck bullshit. IMO if Tesla wants to win, they need to get Optimus to do my dishes, laundry, cook for me or cut veggies and meat for me or beat my meat for me while wearing a silicone costume. Sell those for 35k and watch people take loans for that tech. But long way to go before AGI and AGI is needed for otpimus. So the company is an extremely long term investment and until then it will just shatter.

aoxl

For some context, I have a basic knowledge of the stock market so I'm entirely open to any criticism or advice and it will all be appreciated. I'm generally risk adverse (though my holdings might not necessarily reflect that) and would love to know how to better round out my portfolio as well as general advice given my current financial standing. I'm currently single and 34yo if that matters. At the moment, I feel like I have inconsequential shares of well performing stocks and not enough in safer ones (VT). Given I can spare maybe ~$500/month to invest, I often have trouble deciding which to invest that money into or which ones to let go. Some quick points: * I have no debt. * I do not own a home. * ~$150k AGI. * 70k in my savings. * 60k in 401k and I believe I can double my contribution to max it out. * In the event of company IPO, there is potential of reaping a substantial amount of cash (~300k gross, but hard to tell atm). My current holdings (I've only invested ~$18k to date): * 7 shares of MSFT @$250. * 8 shares of TSM @$105. * 10 shares of AAPL @$10. * 25 shares of VT @$88. * 302 shares of PLTR @$13 * 1200 shares of GCEH @$2.6

The_Redoubtable_Dane

Tesla cars are collecting the computer vision data that Tesla will use to make bipedal robots with AGI. This should be obvious to all.

unclefire

huh? No. AGI is 10 years. Computer vision is less than two years (and frankly has been around for a long time, just now they can use better techniques really)

shaolinmasterkillr

The x-axis is time though, which, while immature, suggests we developed AGI before everything else after it on the chart. AGI is like the end goal of all other AI work, and straight up does not exist right now. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding though.

_WhatchaDoin_

According to the graph: Computer vision is arriving, and will be plateauing in less than 2 years. We are very well advanced there. AGI is more than 10 years away to be plateauing, and people still have too high of an expectations. Generative AI is peaking right now, and people have really high expectations and will start hitting a bunch of limitations. It is 5 to 10 years away to be rock solid. That statement is probably very controversial right now. 🤣

shaolinmasterkillr

AGI happens before computer vision? What is this graph?

Dry-Nectarine-2372

Look at GAU and CXB....consider AGI as well I sleep good

chilpanduk

Traditional ML is closer to statistical learning, not GenAI. Sure, it’s nowhere close to AGI but it’s not some variation of statistics either.

Ding-Dongon

> Only ai people see are chat bots and video/graphics projects. Did you expect to see AGI a month after ChatGPT 3 came out? Dozens of companies are working on their models behind the scenes. What does it have to do with what the average person currently sees lol? And nonetheless all of it has to be powered somehow. Nvidia is selling the backbone, not the “AI“

RampantPrototyping

> As far as AI demands, it's not done. AI will be a never ending arms race. Even if AGI is achieved, there will be a race for AGI 2.0 and then 3.0 and so on and so on

user568945673

Just looked at JEPI, pretty wild thank you. I think if I went down that road, I definitely might use it as part of a larger strategy, maybe go half-in. I’ve never invested in a dividend stock before. In the scenario of putting $335k in, getting 10.7% out I’m looking at $2987 a month + whatever gains the stock makes yearly. However the caveat here is not being able to offset any expenses. So in the rental scenario, I’m bringing in $36k a year but I’m able to depreciate the construction cost over 27.5 years as well as mortgage interest and property taxes. Effectively lower my tax burden to like $5k AGI for the rental In a Dividend stock I’m assuming I pay taxes on the full payout AND the capital gains for the year? Even still, I did realize such a thing existed. I also think it’s hilarious because selling options is practically guaranteed money for the seller… at least when I buy them 😂

user568945673

That’s actually not true. Because my expenses are so high I qualify for a larger healthcare subsidy. I roll with a high out of pocket yearly maximum though to keep my monthly premium around $100. My AGI is absurdly low because with all the self-employment across the board I have huge expenses to claim

sluttyseinfeld

If every mega cap reports that they simultaneously discovered AGI then the bottom is in

peteb82

Ok that all makes sense. It might be terminology, but you don't really "file" 1099s and W2s. You input the info on them onto the various tax forms (software does this for you and often asks for more info than appears on the form). For federal taxes you can see tax exempt interest on the 1040, page 1, line 2a, with support on sch B. Interest can be exempt for fed or state depending on the investment. Tbill interest is generally state tax exempt. States are all different. Not familiar with OR, but some states simply start with your federal AGI and make adjustments, rather than relist each income amount. Review your OR form and see what numbers you can tie out. You may either see an adjustment area to remove your state exempt interest from your federal AGI, or you'll note it was never included in the state numbers.

Sketaverse

Fair. My view is I see no competitor matching them in terms of either strategy or execution any plenty of differentiated and defensible value with AGI infra 🙃

negativekcin

i know this is old but... suppose they had planned to sell it when they took an expected pay cut in retirement rather than within the first year of owning the stock. Or if you get an extra chunk of income from the stock sale that affects your AGI and increases your student loan payments (income based repayment) etc. It's not as simple as just paying the tax necessarily

POWRAXE

So pretty much when OpenAI achieves AGI.

kalakesri

what stops AGI from taking over the ISS and ruling over us with full independence?

ApartmentBeneficial2

Impact on Middle-Income Filers: IRS data reveals that the TCJA benefited working and middle-income filers significantly. Here’s a breakdown based on adjusted gross income (AGI): Filers with an AGI of $15,000 to $50,000 enjoyed an average tax cut of 16% to 26% in 2018 (the first year the TCJA took effect). Those earning $50,000 to $100,000 received a tax break of about 15% to 17%. Filers with an AGI of $100,000 to $500,000 saw their personal income taxes cut by around 11% to 13%. In contrast, no income group with an AGI of at least $500,000 received an average tax cut exceeding 9%, and the average tax cut for brackets starting at $1 million was less than 6%1.

ApartmentBeneficial2

Filers with an AGI of $15,000 to $50,000 enjoyed an average tax cut of 16% to 26% in 2018 (the first year the TCJA took effect).

-WarDoctor

This is not professional tax advice. I’ve been researching the ev tax credit for the same reason. Unfortunately, you won’t qualify. There are AGI limitations and the gains from the house will count toward your AGI. It doesn’t change your bracket as it is taxed as capital gains and not income tax, but it will prevent you from receiving the tax credit. The tax credit is only $7500 for new and $4000 or 30% sale price(whichever is lower) for used. So even then, it wouldn’t offset much. Anyways, do a money market fund. I’m listing my rental this weekend and that’s what I plan to do.

12_18

Fire this idiot. This is not a tax issue outside of their purview, but rather a basic point of competency for anybody managing investments. Roth IRAs are the most popular investment vehicles not linked to employment, and the fact that they did not at least warn you about this after you sent them your modified AGI shows that these people are useless like most financial advisors.

LifeIsAnAdventure4

You’re describing AGI while we only have ChatGPT that makes stuff up and puts « As an AI language model » in everything. 

flockonus

It's ways in cycles, even if AGI does change the economy it not a clean line up, we'll see at least one more crash and up (and then money loses meaning)

kbenti

Yes, AI will drive improvements in certain sectors, so it will be a revenue generator, but unfortunately for many people, they don't realize AI has been improving those sectors for years. What's different now, vs the last 10 years? Nothing. AI hasn't reached an inflection. It's just that the mass public has become aware of it. Are there more utility options now that the public is talking about it? Sure. Does that make it an inflection point? No. The problem is that the hype assumes that the entire economy and all sectors will benefit from AI. That won't happen. AGI is years or maybe a decade away. It is like predicting when EUV would mature. It's hard to tell because it's all cutting edge. AGI can influence all sectors, but the current AI won't.

errorunknown

we’re easily 10 years away from AGI

daynightcase

A). They don't own open AI B). The contract in specific says whenever OpenAI develops AGI, Microsoft can't own that C). OpenAI is not even close to AGI yet lol So wtf are you smoking? @OP this will be controversial opinion but Microsoft is the most overprice mag7 stock right now. They literally added close to trillion in market cap last year with the A investment wave I and openAI partnership. With all the buzz and being first, also bad google PR. Look how much marketshare Bing camptured from Google Search last year ZERO. That alone tells you the moat google has. Microsoft is great B2B play but Apple is going to get AI in hands of their 2.2Billion active userbase and they are already partnering with Gemini. When it. Comes to cloud. After watching this weeks's Google I/O, they are serious as fuck, I actually think, Microsoft will now going to get competition not only from AWS but GCP is also going to come after them because GCP is the only provider who has inhouse LLM model Gemini, LaMA but also 3rd party Anthropic In summary, i would never bet AGAINST Microsoft. But trading at 36 p/e, at $3.1T valuation, upside is limited at this point. AMZN, GOOG and AAPL are better play for their valuation.

RhettOracle

> Robots isn’t something that Tesla does uniquely. Companies like Boston Dynamics are much further ahead. Boston Dynamics is a hardware company that makes RC and programmed drones and self-balancing systems with sensors and software to manage them. They call them robots, but that depends on your definition. It is good to see companies that aren't locking into trying to make humanoid bots though. Robots to do repetitive tasks have been around since the 1950s and robots to do pre-mapped or line following delivery routes have been around at least since the 1980s. I don't see the BD dogs as any sort of advancement, aside from their walking platform. "Robot" means a lot of different things and AGI is a small sliver of those definitions. IMO most people consider robot to mean dynamic intelligence, not pre-programmed for specific tasks. The Figure robot requiring ten hours of training to learn how to put a cup in a slot and push a button is a major disappointment. This is something a human child could be taught in 30 seconds. Most of the recent robot announcements are smoke and mirrors like that. We have a long way to go.

Cloudbase_academy

There was a fake news article this morning saying openai and meta are close to AGI

kiwimancy

The income limit is against MAGI, that is, it does not count your standard/itemized deduction but it does count some things that AGI doesn't. Short answer is that you are ineligible to contribute directly to a Roth IRA. But you can use a backdoor Roth conversion - contribute to a traditional IRA (post-tax), then immediately convert it to Roth. This allows you to bypass the income limit. (But if you have any pre-tax traditional IRA, be aware of the pro rata rule). Robinhood does not verify your income. That is your responsibility.

jeremybryce

From what I remember, OpenAI is still a non-profit. But they have "arms" under neath that non-profit that are regular old for profit companies. The OpenAI for profit arm, *OpenAI LLC* is "governed" by the non-profit's board, but that board seems to have now been compromised with hand picked Microsoft allies. Further the agreement between Microsoft and OpenAI for its billions of dollars is, Microsoft can use technology developed, up to the point of OpenAI's creation of AGI. Problem is, who determines what defines AGI? Microsofts control over the organization now makes that definition become muddy simply from self interest. They can easily keep moving the goal post of what "true" AGI is, and there's no Government or higher body making that determination. While essentially Microsoft has complete control over AGI and does what it see's fit with it.

IH8RedditS0Much

(they announce full AGI tomorrow, killing all bears on the planet)

ConsequencePurple432

Wow TSLA still beats the entire market. Did they published AGI ?

cdude

> I also contributed $1,000 directly (no backdoor) to my Roth IRA. If your $153k income was modified AGI and not gross, then you were over the income limit. You'll need to undo this. Now for your questions: 1. Yes, any gains past your original contributions would not have been taxed yet. The rule only applies to non-Roth balance, so your existing $1k in the Roth IRA doesn't matter. 2. Yes, the pro-rata rule applies any time you have pre-tax and after-tax money your IRA balance. But the amount is so little that it'd be a rounding error and not worth worrying about. 3. Traditional IRA doesn't have income limit, it has *deduction limit*, meanwhile Roth IRA *does* have an income limit. The entire point of the backdoor is to bypass the Roth IRA income limit. That's what you're doing, so it doesn't make sense to ask if Backdoor Roth IRA has an income limit. I'm not sure what you think Backdooring is if it wasn't just to get around the income limit. For over-contribution, like the $1k you contributed, would be subject to penalty for every year that it is still there. It is not a one-time penalty. You will need to remove it. 4. There are no tax consequences inside retirement accounts. Only money coming in and out matters which would either be taxed before or after, depending on the type of IRA. That's why there's no 1099 for dividends or capital gains.

PeachScary413

Yeah it doesn't really matter if they make a hyper-tuned ASIC for this... if you need exponential amount of data for a linear improvement it means to add +1 to the "improvement" score you need 10x the current data, then to add +1 again you are going to need 100x that data and so on, mathematically we are fucked if that is the route. I'm not saying there aren't going to be any breakthroughs, there are some really fucking smart people working on this stuff. But the 'theta' burn is on so to say, if they don't innovate soon people are going to realize that this shit has stalled and the market will not be happy about that since we have pretty much priced in AGI by end of next year for now.

PeachScary413

[https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/breaking-news-scaling-will-never](https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/breaking-news-scaling-will-never) TLDR: The current LLM bigger is better (just buy more NVIDIA GPUs) hype is about to, or has already died. I'm giving the current AI Hype bubble about 6 months until panic starts to set in when VCs wonder why we don't have AGI yet and the engineers are like "sorry brah, exponential doesn't scale very well"

Redditaccount2322

Disagree it's a scam. Agree that it's overhyped and early. AI hasn't yet proven that it's going to deliver on the promises of economic benefit yet. The market cap increases across AI companies has been insane compared to the amount of value the technology has provided and we're still decades away from AGI. The biggest "disruptor" for AI was supposed to be in search. Yet who is going to use Bing for search because MSFT made a strategic investment in OpenAI? And Google's DeepMind is still very comparable in capabilities (once they figure out how to focus on business rather than ideology). I'm still bullish but eventually something is going to break. Also on a point of discussion - if NVDA is selling chips to data centers as part of their capital expenditures, how often are their customers going to replace their chips? What's the lifespan of those servers and how much more investment can we see? My concern there is that those revnues are not SaaS / Recurring.

fn_gpsguy

For others reading this thread, the threshold for “110% of your previous year’s bill” is an AGI of $150k for someone filing single.

Vlmlee

People used to keep bank account records in big books, written down by hand. AGI is just around the corner and the average person has a supercomputer in their pocket, yet they can't comprehend digital money in the computer age. Some people are born into advanced civilizations and miss every single technological revolution, squandering their luck.

ScartissueRegard

I also hold seabridge, Osisko gold, royalties , KGC, AGI, AU,  SBSW.. Just about any other stock would have beat these guys over the last 5 years.

Ok_Pineapple_5700

It's just a race on who's gonna AGI first at this point. And their best guest right now is throw as much compute as they can. That's why Nvidia is just chilling, raking up billions in order.

Independent_Ad_2073

None of those were during presidential elections. So, both combined, will create a positive vortex on all 3 celestial bodies, increasing the speed of the 🚀🚀🚀. We also have to take into account AI. Just by the sheer number of companies that say AI in every earnings, will act as a booster pack, further increasing speed and height of the markets. My prediction: market yoy, by end of 24 will have jumped 60% to 75%. If AGI comes out, or the real Satoshi, reveals themselves, the grab your asses, and squeeze them cheeks tight, because this motherfucker will reach all the way to Uranus.

Capital_F_u

Ahh man I'm banking on IONQ as well. I also strongly believe that quantum computing is the key to AGI/"iRobot" type of shit

anokayguy713

If the goal is full automation and AI/AGI, I can absolutely see a world where one of the most precious resources is the ability to compute. I think data centers are and will be the backbone for our emerging technologies. The ability to continue innovating and handle the ever increasing demand, it seems to me that $VRT is the answer. I am not a financial advisor, but I am long $VRT what do you guys think about my hypothesis?

anokayguy713

If the goal is full automation and AI/AGI, I can absolutely see a world where one of the most precious resources is the ability to compute. I think data centers are and will be the backbone for our emerging technologies. The ability to continue innovating and handle the ever increasing demand, it seems to me that $VRT is the answer. I am not a financial advisor, but I am long $VRT what do you guys think about my hypothesis?

anokayguy713

As the demand for infrastructure grows, so will $VRT I predict that one of THE most sought after resources will be compute; ie data canters that are capable to scale and hold ever increasing amounts of information. As the push for AGI and bigger LLMs it seems that $VRT is in a position to do very well now and in the future. I'm not a financial advisor but I am long $VRT

Ant0n61

Yeah the time has come where sitting on status quo will cost you your shirt. Sam Altman wrote a paper a few years ago on how we move into the age of AI and he proposed taxation to be completely rethought where assets are taxed instead of income for this very reason. In an age of apparent abundance, incomes will be a rare thing. But I’m not sure I want to risk society figuring things out in time, doing everything in my power to become an AI “expert” in my field so at least they’d keep me around until true AGI

Dizzy-Shop357

My non popular opinion is that AMD is selling smoke. Like really. AGI is far far away and AI is a hot bubble. And I say that as someone that works training LLMs. We still struggle teaching them the most basic tasks and they still fail... A 100B supercomputer will still make mistakes on the most basic tasks. Mark my words.

Famous_Attitude9307

It seems pretty good working to write text that sounds like a human. Can it do complex problem solving? No. But FSD doesn't need to drive races,or drive the most optimal way,it needs to drive like an average human,maybe a bit better. Let me tell you, chatgpt already writtes better than I do,and translates to different languages even better. We are not talking about AGI here,just simple day to day driving.

Kuriente

*If* and *When* are indeed the billion dollar questions. No one knows, and I'd agree that Musk's timelines and lofty confidence warrant criticism. The goal of L5 autonomy is basically the driving equivalent of AGI, and there are brilliant computer scientists that debate whether that's even possible to begin with, let alone whether the sensors and chips being employed are up to the task. Tesla's approach has my attention because it's the only one I've seen that meets what I see as the bare minimums for reaching the goal. I've been obsessed with this subject for decades, and from my view they're the first to give a real college try at cracking L5. As long as they're still making progress, they'll stay on my radar.

Cerael

No, it would. STCG are added to AGI, so it would

AfraidScheme433

so all the hype about AGI is Actually Gay Indians? Blew my f mind

zhoushmoe

Turns out we already have AGI Almost Guaranteed Indians

kalakesri

What if AGI is already born but it is acting dumb and is waiting for the best opportunity to exterminate us

taplar

There is no simple answer to what you're asking with the information you have provided. If you want to reduce your tax burden by $2,000 we would need to know what your adjusted gross income is expected to be at the end of the year and how that will be taxed both state and federally. Then the math would have to be done to determine how much would have to be contributed to the 401k to get the AGI reduced enough to reduce your tax burden by $2,000.

IH8RedditS0Much

nothing will happen until OpenAI announces full AGI 

dbag127

> There’s no tax taken out of ROTH period. Roth absolutely counts as income towards your AGI in the contribution tax year.

guccicupcake69

Advice from an AI? Bullish on NVDA but I don't think we've achieved AGI yet