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ma0za

No bud. Just no. Below are the Network & Hardware reqs for a rpc node. Source: https://docs.solanalabs.com/de/operations/requirements Networking: Internet service should be at least 1GBbit/s symmetric, commercial. 10GBit/s preferred. Hardware Recommendations The hardware recommendations below are provided as a guide. Operators are encouraged to do their own performance testing. CPU 12 cores / 24 threads, or more 2.8GHz base clock speed, or faster SHA extensions instruction support AMD Gen 3 or newer Intel Ice Lake or newer AVX2 instruction support (to use official release binaries, self-compile otherwise) Support for AVX512f is helpful RAM 256GB or more Error Correction Code (ECC) memory is suggested Motherboard with 512GB capacity suggested Disk PCIe Gen3 x4 NVME SSD, or better Accounts: 500GB, or larger. High TBW (Total Bytes Written) Ledger: 1TB or larger. High TBW suggested OS: (Optional) 500GB, or larger. SATA OK The OS may be installed on the ledger disk, though testing has shown better performance with the ledger on its own disk Accounts and ledger can be stored on the same disk, however due to high IOPS, this is not recommended The Samsung 970 and 980 Pro series SSDs are popular with the validator community GPUs Not necessary at this time Operators in the validator community do no use GPUs currently RPC Node Recommendations The hardware recommendations above should be considered bare minimums if the validator is intended to be employed as an RPC node. To provide full functionality and improved reliability, the following adjustments should be made. CPU 16 cores / 32 threads, or more RAM 512 GB or more if account-index is used Disk Consider a larger ledger disk if longer transaction history is required Accounts and ledger should not be stored on the same disk

ma0za

Source: https://docs.solanalabs.com/de/operations/requirements Hardware Recommendations The hardware recommendations below are provided as a guide. Operators are encouraged to do their own performance testing. CPU 12 cores / 24 threads, or more 2.8GHz base clock speed, or faster SHA extensions instruction support AMD Gen 3 or newer Intel Ice Lake or newer AVX2 instruction support (to use official release binaries, self-compile otherwise) Support for AVX512f is helpful RAM 256GB or more Error Correction Code (ECC) memory is suggested Motherboard with 512GB capacity suggested Disk PCIe Gen3 x4 NVME SSD, or better Accounts: 500GB, or larger. High TBW (Total Bytes Written) Ledger: 1TB or larger. High TBW suggested OS: (Optional) 500GB, or larger. SATA OK The OS may be installed on the ledger disk, though testing has shown better performance with the ledger on its own disk Accounts and ledger can be stored on the same disk, however due to high IOPS, this is not recommended The Samsung 970 and 980 Pro series SSDs are popular with the validator community GPUs Not necessary at this time Operators in the validator community do no use GPUs currently RPC Node Recommendations The hardware recommendations above should be considered bare minimums if the validator is intended to be employed as an RPC node. To provide full functionality and improved reliability, the following adjustments should be made. CPU 16 cores / 32 threads, or more RAM 512 GB or more if account-index is used Disk Consider a larger ledger disk if longer transaction history is required Accounts and ledger should not be stored on the same disk

wh977oqej9

You could safely store it in Keepass or Veracrypt file. Done on offline live linux OS. But, as said, then you have to store Keepass password, which has to be equally strong as seed phrase. And you have done - nothing. Just engrave it into INOX plate and store in safe location. or better - engrave as shamir secret and store in multiple locations.

SmoothGoing

Upgrade to Linux OS, update Bitcoin Core to 27. No you are not helping stability of the network with old node, likely unreachable externally.

myhappytransition

Do not bother with hardware wallets. They are a false sense of security at best. you need a dedicated offline linux machine if you want real cold storage. No hardware wallet can overcome the security flaws in a closed source OS. That said, probably noone is going to attack you for 4k; you could put that on your phone and be fine. But if you put a single sat on a windows machine, expect to lose it - even with a hardware wallet.

Tfarlow1

>Innovation doesn't need to be driven. People like have like ideas man For individuals you are correct, innovation does not need to be driven, it's from inside. But individuals do not drive innovation. Businesses do. Businesses are what makes innovation successful when looking at the big picture and not individual small success stories. Businesses main drive is money, patents are what enables businesses to get money from innovation. >Core to capitalism Here is the definition of capitalism >Capitalism is an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market. The essential feature of capitalism is the motive to make a profit. Notice the essential feature is to make money. Creating the next big thing is one of the best ways to make money. Apple did it with the iPhone, the revolutionalized the smart phone market and made tons of money. Patents are important so that businesses can turn there RnD into a product to make a profit, which again is the very core of capitalism. >I don't want an iPhone. I want a jPhone, kPhone, and mPhone competing for market share. The consumer comes out ahead that way and gets the most product for the least money. You have various different types of android devices, those are you jPhone, kPhone, mPhone. Apple should be in no way required to allow other hardware manufacturers use their own OS for their phones. They have every right to make it exclusive to iPhones. That's not a monopoly though, because the smart phone mark has all sorts of android devices as well. >Patents are an idea. You can own a product. You can't own the idea of that product of that product is built. You can own a book. You can't own the specific combination of words in some language in some order in that book So you think all IP should just be given out for free, meaning movies have no copyright, songs are not owned by the musicians. People have no rights to their creations....is that really your stance.....say you write a book, but since you can't own an ordering of words, I can copy your book and say this is my creation...is that your honest to goodness stance of what would be proper.... I'll give you a hint, you very well can own an ordering of words that results in story, writers have rights to their stories. You are just rambling nonsense, bullshit propaganda like I mentioned before.

Inside_Lifeguard6706

Never. ETH curently has some advantages over BTC but they are all going to fade away with BTC L2 solutions like upcoming Sovryn's Bitcoin OS and other familiar projects. Then all the good things of ETH will be also be available on BTC. Number of alts will get smaller and btc will only get bigger. IMO

lamensterms

For me a realised OS of about 50%. And opportunity loss of about 80%

bieker

No not trolling, just pointing out that you are using a ridiculous hyperbolic situation to justify your convoluted key management. If you are not actually naked, and you really need access to all your BTC on a whim while you travel all you need is a hardware wallet and a bootable USB stick with your trusted OS on it and you can use almost any computer. Alternatively if you just need “spending BTC “ put some small portion on a phone wallet.

Blocks_and_Chains

This will come down to a personal opinion. Firstly, you have to load up on the safest of assets which are BTC & ETH. My long-term altcoin play is Cartesi - An Application Specific Rollup architecture, which dedicates a rollup to each dApp with its own Virtual Machine for full computational power and no blocksize competitions with other dApps. The integration of a full Linux OS also broadens developer capabilities, enabling the use of familiar software development tools and languages for more complex and advanced dApps. It's just a gamechanger imo.

TheGreatMuffin

Pro-standalone: - can run 24/7 uninterrupted, so it's there wherever you need it, without having to catch up sync for whatever time frame it was off, and doesn't interrupt your usage of the system meanwhile - for raspberries and similar there are guides specifically written for the appropriate OS (it matters for certain usecases, f.ex for using additional software such as Joinmarket, Electrum Personal Server, Lightning routing etc) Contra: - additional hardware required It doesn't really matter either way. Bitcoin Core is just a software, it's mostly a preference of your own and the reason why you are needing it for.

Here4theCrypto

If your dad just needs to get up to speed with using a computer/laptop and an OS, you might try your local library, mine hosts general computer classes for seniors to learn the basics, for free.

Narrow_Elk6755

Get Linux installed. Try our a liveUSB of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Pop OS, Xubuntu, Bunsen Labs, Linux Mint, etc..  They are all a trade off of gimmicks, bloat, and memory usage.

skr_replicator

those viruses can switch your clipboard addresses without getting detected, i had to reinstall OS to make it stop, since the nativirus couldn't detect the malware.

myhappytransition

>What is a better method than test transactions? I ask because that is thrown around here as good advice , thanks (1) avoiding address reuse. This means never saving or reusing old addresses. Whitelisting is idiotic too; if its in your "whitelist" its used and old, and should never be used again. (2) secure transport of destination addresses from the receiving party to your system, for example, https, a GPG message, or a libsodium message. (3) neither party using windows OS

cheerful_afternoon

My best guess is, it is a brain wallet. Brain wallets use a pass phrase to create addresses and are not very safe. Your can try this method: Go to https://brainwalletx.github.io/ Scroll down, select the link "download zip" Move the downloaded file to an OFFLINE COMPUTER, that is not connected to internet. Once you're done with everything, wipe the hard disk of the computer and install fresh OS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR FUNDS. On the offline computer, extract the zip file, and open in a web browser. Type in your pass phrase in the associated field. Type the exact phrase. Uppercase and lowercase, spaces, everything matters. It gives you 2 addresses: compressed and uncompressed. You can switch between the two using the "point conversion" button. Write both addresses on a piece of paper exactly as they appear. Lowercase and upper case matters. Go to an online computer, go to mempool.space or Blockchain.com Type in the addresses in their search bar. If there is any balance on any of the addresses, it will show you. Reply to this messages here if any of them show any balance and I'll comment how to get them out. Do not DM me, reply here, so everyone can check. Do not reply to any DMs

neon_musk

This is why one morning my dad found me having switched his OS to Linux with a theme that keeps Solitaire exactly the same set of clicks away and an email client that strips all links and image bugs

Krayge

u/No-City94 Bravo! Appreciate the steps as this helped me get Umbrel running on mine. Only issue I'm having is the fan on the Argon One V3 case. It WILL NOT come on under Umbrel. It spins up on boot but can't get it working in the OS. Have followed steps in the instructions, even disconnected the fan from the case and reconnected directly to Pi board. Nothing... Very disappointing for what is an expensive case.

IncubusInYourInbox

CP/M was already a thing! Not only was there a multi-platform OS, you could get the trilogy of business apps on it - Wordstar, Supercalc, and dBase II. And if you wanted to develop programs - Microsoft actually got their start with things like BASIC, FORTRAN and COBOL on CP/M. Not to mention Borland's Turbo Pascal and Hi-Tec C. There was a reason Microsoft used a clone of CP/M for the 8086 to sell as MS-DOS....

JustSomeBadAdvice

BBS systems were relegated to specifically nerds and college punks. And yes, computers were useful for all sorts of stuff in the early 90s and some stuff in the late 80s. But in the early 80s? There just wasn't any software, any OS, much of anything unless you had a million dollars and a team of engineers like NASA or a big company.

Braiins_mining

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Frogolocalypse

My god your fkn article is about the fact that hardware wallets aren't really air-gapped. > Air-gapped cryptocurrency wallets are believed to hold private keys stored in them secure, but an Israeli researcher has demonstrated that attackers can leak the keys from such wallets in a matter of seconds. Quit with the google searches ffs. I have already covered this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1cfej47/how_do_i_go_about_getting_a_hard_wallet/l1qkbtu/?context=3 > You don't know what an injection attack is. You would see that on an SD card as a file. In order for that vulnerability to be possible, the OS of the network connected computer would need to be compromised, the SD card would need to be compomised, the SD-card ports on both the network connected computer AND the hardware device would need to be compromised. ALL of that would need to be done in person, short of infecting EVERY SD Card and SD Card reader. > And none of that drivel has anything to do with the vulnerability of connecting a device to a network connected computer. You know the only thing that would need to be compromised? The USB cable, or the hardware device which you have no way of validating, or the network connected computer. Because the keys are connected to a network. Which is the vulnerability that cold storage mitigates. You don't know what the fk you're talking about.

Frogolocalypse

Quit with the google searches ffs. I have already covered this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1cfej47/how_do_i_go_about_getting_a_hard_wallet/l1qkbtu/?context=3 > You don't know what an injection attack is. You would see that on an SD card as a file. In order for that vulnerability to be possible, the OS of the network connected computer would need to be compromised, the SD card would need to be compomised, the SD-card ports on both the network connected computer AND the hardware device would need to be compromised. ALL of that would need to be done in person, short of infecting EVERY SD Card and SD Card reader. > And none of that drivel has anything to do with the vulnerability of connecting a device to a network connected computer. You know the only thing that would need to be compromised? The USB cable, or the hardware device which you have no way of validating, or the network connected computer. Because the keys are connected to a network. Which is the vulnerability that cold storage mitigates.

Fiach_Dubh

you can run a node using windows mac or most any OS

SmoothGoing

I can access my bitcoin in an emergency from just about anywhere. All I have to do is buy a laptop and a thumbdrive and get on coffee shop wifi to make a bootable live OS. Can anyone else access my bitcoin? Well they have not succeeded so far. So I guess my needs are covered with my setup. And that's what matters.

SmoothGoing

Buy a hardware wallet. Follow instructions. If you want a PC hot wallet get one from electrum.org Phones have some options too, depends on the OS.

DC600A

Someone was saying the other day how Oasis could be the OS (read, framework) for the ASI alliance - playing on the word oasis. And since the latest brand refresh, Oasis has come so close to making it a real possibility. The way Oasis has planned [decentralized confidential computation](https://oasisprotocol.org/blog/decentralize-all-the-things) and the Runtime Off-chain Logic (ROFL) framework is going to revolutionize AI in blockchain and crypto space. With a bull run expected in the crypto markets, this is great news for the buildup and sustainability of crypto AI, imo.

Writing_On_Top

China's economy continues to deflate, which actually isn't bad, even though mainstream economists say it is. I have learned, they are only speaking about multi-nationals when they speak, so bad for them, I guess. More countries drop the USD (which I predicted would happen between 2021 and 2023 back in 2018 because FED said they planned digital dollar. I was wrong on the WHY but right on the time). As the USD is dropped, more countries will start to give middle finger to the USA for better deals, or they get kicked out (See: West African Nations, one by one, first EU, now USA literally several countries in this past week alone kicking USA out). This will cause Americans to have a savings drop to 600B down from 800B (but that number is skewed with BILLIONAIRES in there, because that number should have dropped last year, but added another 50B, maybe because they are giving free money to all the non-citizens they are letting in the country and they are opening accounts?). I also see in the short term, USA losing AI and electric car might to China, even though china is slightly behind in AI. It will only take about 3 to 8 months. I work directly on the ground with a few companies right now, and betting big that they take off (so I can get my payday lol). I would like to point out that the trade war is already on. China was holding off for the longest, but now they have directly started banning american companies, stopped the iPhone for Chinese government officials, and every single time an American politician visits their country, they have a major release from Huawei or other tech giant, and massive sales from the Chinese citizens ensue. Huawei had a new phone release, then Xaomi with a car, then Huawei with Harmony OS major update (that was the last 3 visits respectively). USA has shot itself with the foot, and taken the EU with it. This is due to the dominant society wanting control, mainly in a race-based system, and secondarily for the ones of same race, a class-based one. The multinationals are doing what's in their best interest, aka, drain all money out of the west and suck up like transaction fees the profits as they head to the East and Global South. It's pretty straightforward when you see it that way. Not sure if China and other nations care much about that, but they do want their own economies to thrive.

daemonpenguin

It depends on _how_ safe you want to be. Lots of systems either spy on you or ship with backdoors or can get infected with malware. So any time you do anything with your computer or smart phone you're opening yourself up to some risk. Then storing your information on-line means you're putting your information on another computer. So you either need to trust the encryption/keys you used to protect the information or trust the owner of the computer you uploaded to to keep your information safe. Each computer your data touches increases your risk. Now if you're using a live or pristine OS on a computer without any backdoors then you're mostly safe. And if you use good encryption on your data before uploading you're still probably mostly safe. But each step, each extra copy of the data, means you need to trust more people and more layers of the software and storage involved.

analogOnly

What about future compromises that are able to read parts of memory that have deleted on the OS but still remain on the drive.

No-City94

Thank you. But I fail to install the Start9 to the Pi 5. Here's the error - "The installed operating system does not indicate support for Raspberry Pi 5 Update the OS or set os\_check=0 in config.txt to skip this check." and Device tree file "bcm2712-rpi-5-b.dtb" not found

JustAd2122

This is definitely not to replace a hardware wallet, this is not meant to be used everytime you want to use your wallet but only to store your seedphrase. And if you use a hardware wallet you need to store it safely. Regarding the "reading the ram of another process" well, okay sure, as said previously, you can use Qubes OS or Tails OS, but it is even more trivial to read your seedphrase on your piece of paper or any media that it is on in plain text

Tall_Instance9797

It's been around for years... like everything they have now included some "ai" into it but you don't have to use the AI features... but the software you're looking for .... and please do your own research... like if you asked what OS should I use and someone says 'windows or linux' ... the most famous software you're looking for is haasbot ... [https://www.haasonline.com](https://www.haasonline.com) ... no affiliate link. I'm not getting paid to share this... its just what I used with a quant friend of mine back a few years ago (before it had any AI built into it) and it does everything. Very steep learning curve but you'll find years worth of information about it online / youtube etc. It is software that can do what you are asking for and many people use it for exactly what you want to do too. It's one, if not the, leading automated trading software that professionals use. Like protools for audio or adobe for designers. Haasbot is the software for traders. Big learning curve though, just like with any professional software.

hautdoge

I guess this could work but it seems less secure (private key is still on a usb stick which can get corrupted, stolen, copied etc) than just buying he wallet. They aren’t that expensive and are easier to use than booting another OS just to send coin

rosarino356

I'm not knowledgeable enough to give you a proper answer. I've tried Tails OS (I think it's Linux based) with Electrum wallet, but I felt like I was outsmarting myself. This post might help you out: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/r2pld7/what_do_the_hardware_wallets_offer_that_electrum/ 

seaningtime

I think if you are using an amnesiac OS like tails it should be fine, otherwise you run the risk of malware. Granted, there is risk of somebody finding and using the USB, but you can put passwords on it.

Hebi_Berlin

I use a Intel NUC 13 and it works perfectly. As OS I run Start9 on it

GoldenrodScript

[Check start9 OS](https://start9.com/)

chris_thoughtcatch

You ever heard of Temple OS?

ElderBlade

Start here: https://bitcoin.org/en/full-node Raspberry pi OS is based on Linux, so follow the Linux steps to installing and running Bitcoin Core. Any other questions just ask.

Nixisworld

I'm working on https://www.on-chain-income.com/ Where I aim to make crypto simple for beginners, giving them a free guide on how to earn crypto for free. I also build a whole system called Crypto OS ⚡ I'm building all this in Notion, which allows me to present a complex niche with simplicity. Let me know your feedback 💪

distressedacorn

I"d use a Linux OS for starters.

myhappytransition

[](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7yp2h/comment/l0bc120/) >It doesn't matter if you run Windows, no operating system can access the private key on a hardware wallet. That's pretty much the number 1 requirement a hardware wallet has to fulfill. they dont have to access the private key to rob you. When you trust a closed source OS, you will get robbed sooner or later. Its guaranteed.

Amber_Sam

>Would it be sensible to install the app on my work laptop just to do the update? Then uninstall it! If you want to be sure, install a new OS on a Virtual Machine, install the app, claim your voucher and delete the OS. If it's possible to get the app on Linux, create a life OS on your USB, and use that instead of the work computer OS. >So I bought a ledger hardware wallet **Four reasons why I would never use any ledger product.** **They leaked details of their clients** (email, phone #, full name, home address, what exactly they bought) and even now these people keep getting scary phone calls. **The wallet has closed code** - nobody (except the company, secret services, hackers) can see how many back doors the software has. **It's a multi coin wallet** - more coins, means more code, more attack surface. **The wallet isn't cold** - the company revealed a feature, allowing them to extract the keys into backup facilities online. They said, this is possible (with an update) for a very long time. This is the very opposite of cold storage (never touch the internet).

AvengerDr

I am not resentful of Americans. I have been to the USA many times and had lots of fun. I only don't like that use the same tired arguments that end up on those subs. "Oh reddit users has more than half of its users from America" (even though your own link says 42%), "oh this is an American website and you are on the American internet, using an American OS" and so and so on. Again, this is not /r/BitcoinUSA. As long as we are on /r/Bitcoin there is an expectation that users here are from all around the world. In order to make users feel welcome, people should adhere to international standards, not try to defend weird date formats.

carbarfar321

its extremely difficult to get more secure than dedicated tails OS + electrum offline even with top of the line hardware wallets like coldcards. Trezors can be hacked IF one gets their hands on it (unclear how you can be sure it wont ever be stolen). It depends on how much youre putting on it and what your vectors of attack are, might be fine but if tails setup is working for you i wouldn't downgrade to the old trezor.

bleakj

It would be running in its own docker / vm, The server itself doesn't have anything running with full access so to speak, there's definitely still some concerns with it running anywhere that it has internet access I suppose, but it wouldn't have direct access/be running in the same OS as other items

0x07AD

Bitcoin Knots appears to only be available for the Apple OS X and Microsoft Windows operating systems. I do not think Docker supports either of those operating systems as containerised environments. You would have to use virtual machines instead of containers. For virtual machines, the command-line version of VirtualBox provides the best option for automated deployments and management once you create the definition file(s); I used this approach years ago. Microsoft has a server-based product to automate systems deployment, but it is not free, at least not legally for production use.

Much-Lavishness-3121

https://www.ballet.com/?_gl=1*1ysdv6p*_ga*NzcxOTk5NDgwLjE3MTI3MjQ0NDE.*_ga_05RXQC4V3W*MTcxMzEzMTI1MC45LjEuMTcxMzEzMTQ2My41OS4wLjA.

murkforgian

Raspbian is now called Raspberry Pi OS. Download the OS image from the Pi Web site. For Pi5, choose 64-bit It's Debian 12, with minor Pi compatibility mods Download the ARM64 version of Core from bitcoincore.org Follow the instructions at bitcoin.org/full-node Those instructions are simple. Use *tar* to unpack the *tar.gz* archive. Use *install* to copy the executables from the *bin* directory into */usr/local/bin/* and set the execute bit (permissions 755)

ThornApart_

What if I already have everything set up to run a Raspberry Pi BUT the Raspberry Pi? Because that’s actually my case; I’ve already bought all the setup, but the Pi. Would you suggest me a Pi4 or a Pi5? My setup goes along with both of them; the only thing I haven’t analyzed is the OS part (Umbrel) on Pi5.

00_Jose_Maria_00

I used Bisq on Windows for years before switching to Linux. It's ok. But remember it is a hot wallet regardless of what OS you use.

Amber_Sam

**Arch Linux** The Bisq downloads page includes a link to the Arch User Repository (AUR) page for the bisq package. From the command line, clone the repository from AUR. Then from the cloned directory, run makepkg -si. This will read the PKGBUILD file to download, verify, build, and install the various tools necessary to install Bisq. If the version found on AUR is not up to date, you can read Fix_Arch_release. Please be advised: when you're using AUR, you're responsible for your own safety. Be sure to verify the PKGBUILD file. **Gentoo** Use eselect repository enable booboo to use the 'booboo' overlay which carries the binaries, and then emerge bisq **Tails** Please see Running Bisq on Tails for details on downloading, installing, and configuring Bisq on Tails. **Qubes** Please see Running Bisq on Qubes for a detailed Qubes setup guide. https://bisq.wiki/Downloading_and_installing#OS-specific_install_notes

cosmic_censor

>Where is said belief coming from? What could potentially give you such confidence it will eventually find its use? Well crypto does have utility, these systems do work and provide a service. It just doesn't have much adoption but that isn't the same thing as lacking utility. Where we are right now reminds me very much of using a Linux desktop twenty years ago. You couldn't really do much except use worse alternatives to windows apps. It required a lot of technical expertise to do things that were a few clicks in windows. People either made fun of you or were hostile towards you if you admitted to using it. And here we are 3 decades since its inception and Linux desktop has only a 4% market share. Thirty years to get 4% of the market... what a failure! Yet for my entire adult life I have used Linux as the OS on my home computer and it allowed me to avoid using big tech's proprietary software as much as possible. So I don't buy the no adoption = no utility. And crypto does have adoption, its just small right now but it is growing and that is what really matters.

stupidlamo

Yes, of course, I will try way with recovering old system and old hdd separately from current files and OS. Thank you!

HonorableJamesBond

Get tails OS and start searching for your answers.

Efficient_Culture569

I understand your point, my cold storage is cold... It's never connected. Don't need to connect to buy it. Hasn't been connected in years, probably since setup. No ledger has been hacked yet, so if it's possible to hack them, not sure why it hasn't been done yet. There's millions of devices, and Billions of BTC in them. Just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's easy to do. Like I said, anything can be stolen, either remotely or physically. I know you built your own cold storage solution and don't trust anything or anyone, probably use Graphene OS and Qubes OS, but your average folk doesn't need that level of security.

andy01q

I think OP meant the question how you interpreted it, but there's another related question: If the backdoored xz-version would have made it onto my OS (afaik there's also a backdoored build for Android and Windows, though not anywhere close to being standard on those platforms), then I probably would have lost my Bitcoin - at least the next time I sent or received any, no?

ardyes

KAS - Solves the blockchain trilema using blockDAG - High throughput. QUBIC - created by Come from Beyond (who has created the two tokens with the highest Return on investment tokens ever. IOTA and NXT [https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-10-crypto-deals-in-2017-returned-over-136-000-on-average-report-shows](https://cointelegraph.com/news/top-10-crypto-deals-in-2017-returned-over-136-000-on-average-report-shows) Useful proof of work system that leverages mining to train AI. Runs completly in ram on bare metal without an OS.

Vegetable-Struggle30

As long as you don't interact with smart contracts and run your software frontend in a encapsulated medium (ie; virtual machine with a virtualized NIC (or even better with an OS like tails)) then it can be very secure. I just personally dont like the idea of someone in physical possession of my hardware wallet being able to take possession of the wallet.

Alfador8

Supposedly Linux is coming along nicely as a gaming OS. I haven't tried it but I'll definitely be looking into it more when the time comes for a new rig.

confuzzledfather

First things first. Take an image of the drive. DONT work directly from a 12 year old hard drive that could fail at any moment. If no wallet file, or the key sweeping doesn't work check for pdfs, some wallets from the time like armory had you print of pdfs as paper back ups, so maybe they are still around. Use forensic tools ike Tails OS to check for deleted files. Check browser related files for histories, passwords etc for mining pools. Get access to your dad's email and search for stuff like wallet, pool, names of pools around at the time etc.

MysteryLiezer

Which OS(s) do you use?

KPABA

Dude. I get it. You're a geek. You know what you are doing. If everyone was as savy as you, we would not be having this conversation. Then, there is people like my mum, who is the epitome of a typical elderly apple user. She loves the simplicity of it all. She trusts it. She feels empowered by it as she does not need to rely on me to help her with it. How do I ensure she doesn't get baited into opting in to install some stupid card game and then ends up with her banking compromised? Furthermore, the EU is now pushing for the options to be able to complely uninstall stock apple apps like Photos etc and put a new default viewer, which is kind of hard as its super engrained within the OS and has access to all your photos and camera on a low level. Sandbox is fine until you need to break it for compliance. I can think of other apps, like replacement keyboards, that can be dangerous on 3rd party stores. I am not sure how this is good for the vast majority of users. This is all I am saying. If you want to do your own thing, why did you buy Apple in the first place?

Halo22B

Start9 provides plug and play systems but they also offer just their OS for free. If you have an old PC or laptop load a copy and see if you like the "feel" of it....

iamoxymoron

I’ve invested into POS quite heavily, hopefully it works out but they do have the best website I’ve ever seen on any project, ever. And I’ve been investing in crypto since 2014. Also the first OS built on Solana, I’m super bullish. The tech allows you run multiple dapps in the same window, so sick

slavikthedancer

Strictly saying, modern BIOSes could be infected with malware. There are cases of legit drivers having built in backdoors. Your updated OS could have 0-day vulnerabilities. So, having a dedicated laptop for ledger live would improve security, but still will be not as secure, as a combination of completely disconnected device + electrum, for example.

Urc0mp

If you wanted a pc to generate wallets and hold keys the main thing that matters is airgapping it. No internet. No flash drives. It doesn’t matter if it is tails OS or windows 2000 with a keylogger installed at that point, your keys have no way of leaving the PC. Probably just using an up to date smartphone with trusted apps is safe enough for most people though tbh. It funny to me how it seem people are comfortable accessing their $$$$$ traditional accounts from a phone app but paranoid about keys securing $$ of doge.

BrocoliAssassin

I had to hold off buying a macbook which sucks. I can't stand windows 11 anymore. Such an absolute piece of shit OS.

SmoothGoing

Run in console screen dumpwallet C:/walletdump.txt Or wherever you want the file depending on OS and path. Google up the command for other details. Can you get to console screen? Did you use wallet password? Will need to unlock first with walletpassphrase command. Alternatively there are some standalone tools that can extract keys from wallet.dat file.

thetdy

You could but doing this with a licensed OS has always worked kinda screwy when doing something like this. And if you were to use bitlocker I'm not sure I would trust it working 100% of the time especially if you're doing this. You could use Windows for free and just never pay for it but for the best results I would use Linux. I just recommend Ubuntu as it feels like the most Windows distro to me in terms of usability and support. In my experience Linux is better at this but use what you want I guess.

Ok_Swing_9902

Get a second SSD, install OS, connect it to computer (and disconnect others) for secure matters. Then if you change computers you can take it with you.

castorfromtheva

On Trezor your funds are safe, no matter how compromised your machine is. I recommend you to get Electrum, Specter or Sparrow wallet and set your Trezor up with it. Why using this shitty Trezor suite at all? If you think you have a clipboard malware go do some test copy and pastes with randomly generated addresses and look if they change. If you're concerned about keylogger (why exactly?) use the virtual keyboard that either built into your OS your get a different one. No matter what, no one can steal your funds if they don't press the buttons on your device aka as interact with it physically. That's what hardware wallets are made for. And if we're already on with it: The software you will use to access your wallet will be able to give you your xpub. You can use it to setup a watch only wallet on any device you want for future secure "checking" purposes. Ah, and one last thing. If you nevertheless want to go the route you approached first, why buying a new device? You can also install various OS on USB drives and boot it with your machine. This way you would save the money for a new device but nevertheless have a "fresh" system.

Blocks_and_Chains

Cartesi. An Application-Specific Rollup that enables dApps have their own virtual machine without competing with other dApps for block space, while maintaining the same security guarantees as the chosen base layer. Cartesi's VM can boot an entire Linux OS, meaning developers are not limited to a specific programming language as with other blockchains; they can utilize any mainstream language, tools, and libraries for building dApps. Really awesome technology.

TomSurman

VPN on a separate computer, would be my approach. It's probably not completely watertight, but it would make it a good deal more difficult to firmly attach your name to your activity. A lot of your digital fingerprint is information about your system, like your computer's MAC address. Even things like your screen resolution, OS, language settings, browser plugins, etc can be recorded by the websites you visit.

Infamous-Incident-74

I use Tails OS on a USB stick. Encrypted Linux OS.

brontesaur

The e cores are not affected so that is the other option for M1/M2. But yes, it's up to the devs so keeping your software and Mac OS security patches up to date means you do not need to panic.

slash_networkboy

Yeah their platform support is not as good as would be ideal for sure, but I use their wallet as my warm storage. I have it on a VM that is stored on an encrypted volume. Start VM, open wallet, do transaction, close wallet, shut down VM. Makes it vastly less likely to have credentials stolen by spyware as most (all?) don't look inside VMs, and only have a narrow window of opportunity to do so anyway, and the VM OS does literally nothing else, no internet (I mean it's connected for blockchain access, but nothing ever opened in browsers, they're hyper locked down anyway just in case, etc.).

CanOk34

the best wat to go around crypto is 1. buy 2. create a wallet on a feshly installed and checksum verified OS, with a checksum verified wallet software 3. transfer to wallet 4. memorize words 5. delete 6. hold "full implications" there are none as long as you dont forget the words everything else is unnecessary since anything other than holding is messing around, you shouldn't be making transactions at all. If you do just use an exchange since all youre doing it trading anyway

Consistent-Recipe-81

My advice to you dont use hardware coldwallets: buy an old cellphone (I recommend a Iphone or old Galaxy) restore it to factory defaults or reinstall it's OS from scratch VERY IMPORTANT make sure after you have done the step above that the "factory version" that it doesn't have any custom boot software installed like [https://twrp.me/Devices/](https://twrp.me/Devices/), if it has it could allow backdoor access to your phone install a wallet like Bluewallet connecting to your wifi then put your cellphone into airplane mode and "forget" the Wifi networks you used to download the wallet setup a strong cellphone unlock password make sure debugging mode is not activated on your cellphone (this allows backdoor access to it) setup encryption on Bluewallet NOW create your brand new wallet on Bluewallet and never connect your cellphone to any Wifi/bluetooth EVER again, if you know how to tinker with those things you can probably find a way to destroy the wifi module of the cellphone Learn how to use your cellphone to sign offline transactions [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0oo1BDNbg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0oo1BDNbg) Bing you have yourself a hardware cold wallet you have certified it yourself.

Lyuseefur

Has nothing to do with CryptoCurrency. Although there's a small chance it can be used to extract wallet key during the time that it is made. Meantime ... there will be an OS patch that will fix this.

Real-Technician831

Currently keep an eye on developments, and see does anyone test this on Mac OS wallets for example Metamask. And if one is of paranoid sort, start using hardware wallet. How usable this vulnerability is against crypto wallets is not yet known.

draoi28

Nice setup. I'm using Linux Mint as well, for my PC, and for the offline laptop. Great OS.

Haunting-Student-756

Install TAILS OS on USB. Disable networking. Setup persistent storage. Use Electrum pre installed on TAILS.

AsbestosDude

Proof of stake is very efficient what are you talking about, in no way is that a weak argument. Do you want to see the computation requirements to run a Cardano node? OS - Linux 64-bit (Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, 20.04 LTS; Mint 19.3, 20; Debian 10.3) 2 vCPU - 2GHz or faster ( recommended 4vCPUs) 24 GB of RAM. 200 GB of disk space Are you really going to argue that this node is inefficient compared to the cost of harvest, transportation, production of paper, ink, security, design, verification. ​ Sure yes once the bill is printed it's out in circulation, however the cost to keep a single manufacturing plant's lights on is way more than it costs to run hundreds of nodes.

max7855

so bullish it’s insane what meme coin is gonna let you play runescape while you browse the web on their OS ?

riscten

You're right, I wrongly remembered that they issued keys from a preselected pool, but in reality it was a phishing scam where sites with similar but different domains would do it. The original is apparently safe. Generating seed phrases and keys from a website is perfectly fine as long as you do it in an airgapped fashion, ie. download the website, preferably from the official Github, copy on a USB key with an untouched OS, remove any network adapter, boot from USB, verify the checksum of the wallet, then run. There are many other ways to do this. It's inconvenient for daily transactions, but perfectly good if you're only doing long term cold storage and have no desire to spend for a hardware wallet.

FieserKiller

when will linux be used by the masses? I can tell you: For years it already \_is\_ the most used OS in the world. And I assume it will be the same with Bitcoin. People will use their Payment apps, bank accounts and local currencies. But the backends will settle in bitcoin.

riscten

>I thought the hardware wallet doesn't store your bitcoin or private keys? It depends. *Stateless* HW wallets don't store your private keys *persistently*, meaning that they only store it in volatile memory (RAM) for the duration of a session, and when you reboot the device, they're gone and you have to type them back in. Stateful HW wallets (like Coldcard) store your private keys persistently in a secure element. You can think of the secure element as a tiny, isolated computer within the device, that has its own storage very limited processing power, and is tamper resistant. When you reboot a Coldcard, you don't need to re-enter your seed (although it can be configured to be stateless too and clear the seed on every shutdown) So really, all wallets store private keys. What varies is when they clear them from memory. The fundamental feature of a HW wallet is to isolate the keys from wider networks (like a LAN or the Internet). The job of a hardware wallet is to sign transactions without ever exposing the private keys to the outside world. A phone or desktop wallet cannot do this because the software is running on a general purpose OS that's exposed (or will be exposed) to various networks. If you run Electrum on macOS, you can have malware watching what the wallet is doing, or a keylogger waiting for you to type in a seed, or a plethora of other attack vectors. Even if you disconnect from the Internet, it can save the data and beam it to the mothership the moment you're back online. A well designed hardware wallet will have no networking features and be completely airgapped. The fact that they are simpler and separate devices also makes it easier to control what's running on there. You will (hopefully) never be tempted to install a YouTube downloader extension that comes packaged with malware on a hardware wallet. You just type in your seed, generate a transaction on a hot wallet, send the transaction to the cold (hw) wallet via QR codes or an SD card, have the cold wallet sign the transaction using your private key, then transfer the signed transaction back to the hot wallet, which will broadcast it to the network.

n0obInvestor

I don’t think I know as much about bitcoin as you so I won’t argue against your claim that it’s better. But regardless of that, bitcoin won’t be digital gold just because you say it’s better. It will only be digital gold if enough people believe it is. Hardcore computer programmers will tell you there are many operating systems better than Microsoft, yet Microsoft dominated the OS space. Perhaps you know this and made this post for that exact reason.

SmoothGoing

Total scarcity is some moot noise. If you want to be picky everything is scarce on earth, and in the universe. There's a limited number of atoms in existence. Invented once - you heard that but is it really true? There's Android and iOS. Both are pretty great in their own ways. The world didn't just pick one best phone OS. Even in this post comparison is between gold and bitcoin. Both are scarce. Conclusion doesn't make sense. Bitcoin scarcity is adjustable. It depends on people doing a thing or not doing another thing. That is a condition.

StatisticalMan

You should use a memory only OS like TAILS OS and then kill the entire OS before connecting to internet.

Bitcoin_cures_cancer

Just reinstal the OS (and wipe the disk) after creation and before connecting to the internet.

LateFaithlessness858

Tails OS on a USB - FREE

uex

electrum is an open source software that can run in several hardware and OS. Are you claiming the attack surface is lower than that of a hardware wallet?

Ima_Wreckyou

Bitcoin as a currency is like Linux as a Desktop OS. It may be widely adopted one day maybe.  But long long before that it will completely take over all the infrastructure in all the backend systems that transport value around the globe. Think of it as the only neutral intermediary between all sorts of other currencies.

Ctrl_Fr34k

2015/16 pastejacking incident while sending to my wallet. My fault for not using a secure PC/OS or double checking the address.

michelvankessel

can someone explain this part? How is this possible? "Since Jaxx isn't around they tried Atomic wallet first but atomic only showed $2k worth" .. I guess this is where the 12-word phrase were stolen? .. How was the wallet installed on on which OS?

aayushkkc

I switched OS last year so the wallets are not installed right now

MicrostormHK

I'm a local in Hong Kong and started moving most of my CEX holdings into hardware wallet at the end of 2023. Ordered a Safe 3 directly from Trezor and had been using it since. Also looked at ColdCard back then and picked the Safe 3 instead as it seems to be a bit easier to use. What I did was (might not be the best solution but that's what I did)... 1. Purchased the HW wallet. 2. Downloaded new firmware to the Safe 3 (Used an older MacBook wiped and OS reloaded) 3. Used dices to manually created my BIP-39 seed phrase (wrote it down offline) 4. Entered seed phrase into the Safe 3 (this is done using the keys on the device - ie: seed phrase never entered on the MacBook) 5. Setup my MacBook with Bitcoin wallet software (Sparrow) and linked the Safe 3 onto the wallet (again ensuring that the private key was never stored on the MacBook) 6. Transfer all BTC from CEX into unique Bitcoin Addresses from the sparrow wallet (choose a time when fees are low - I was able to do this when fees were around 12-19 sat/Vb -- might be much higher now) After that, the Safe 3 is locked up and I can still check BTC balances from Sparrow (watch only wallet) Hope this helps. Again, this is not the best solution, just what I did.