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Options Questions Safe Haven Thread | Jan 29 - Feb 04 2024
How did you know that TSLA was priced for a 50% CAGR?
Buying TSLA calls during the dump, I thought we were in a bull market, no?
It's time for Inverse Cramer and buy TSLA
TSLA down, lots of people in puts popping Champagne - LVMH moon!
Question for people who profited from both TSLA and NVDA ?
What do y’all think about using ChatGPT for stock researching?
Call me dumb but doesn’t this chart pattern show that $TSLA is about to shoot to the moon?
Imagine your only narrative to boost your company is restricting all other competitors, $TSLA puts
Any else else see this? $TSLA was watching it during after hours and saw the spike!
First time, am I doing it right? TSLA 185 1/26 call. Roast me
who had TSLA puts and show us your bag
Puts vs Short shares with calls as a hedge
Spent the rest of my life savings betting on a TSLA drop. Didn't think it would happen so soon.
Starting the year off right $TSLA and $ZIM
TSLA: testing 192 support and lower support near 176
What is wrong with TSLA to many short sells? I know Ev Market is not that great but...
This is heading towards extreme oversold territory. How much more will it go 🤔
Are you putting a Stop Order on your $TSLA shares tomorrow?
Retrace Inbound? 1-24-24 SPY/ ES Futures, QQQ/ NQ Futures, 10YR Yield, and DXY/ US Dollar Daily Market Analysis (Tesla Earnings)
Retrace Inbound? 1-24-24 SPY/ ES Futures, QQQ/ NQ Futures, 10YR Yield, and DXY/ US Dollar Daily Market Analysis (Tesla Earnings)
Tesla Non-GAAP EPS of $0.71 misses by $0.03, revenue of $25.17B misses by $590M
Just buy SEMI/AI and ride the hype. The roller coaster will end soon but for now it’s green day’s ahead.
Why I'm getting Tesla Puts, A Deep Dive into Earnings (A Must Read)
A Deep Dive into Tesla's Earnings (A Must Read)
Here's to $TSLA big miss on ER. Lotto for fun!
Anyone get frustration with themselves not buy more Magnificent 7 ?
Nice timing for anonymous TSLA leak - reuters
So, this is kinda why I think Netflix will beat
Options Questions Safe Haven Thread | Jan 22-28 2024
Just went full YOLO on TSLA - $208 per share with 2x Leverage 🚀🚀
A Lamborghini-Style EV: BYD Goes Upmarket to Outmaneuver Tesla
Congrats to the guy with TSLA 215 call options for today
It’s 2024, how are you guys planning on taking advantage the “AI Craze”?
Came here to find my dumpster for the week.
$527 to $73k in 2.5 months. The journey to $100k and beyond
Mentions
Gey TSLA bears are like the clippers today. Your 2x bagger just became -90%. You will lost the rest on Monday.
TSLA sells cars? I thought I was investing in an tech company...oh well TSLA 
TSLA should start playing 30 second unskippable ads on the display before each car ride for an extra revenue source
For real. AAPL gonna TSLA.
TSLA hit 170, time to ride the elevator back down.
For what reason would TSLA reach 200? The hype is already faltering and it’s no longer a growth company.
TSLA bears R FUKED. Daddy Musk is in China selling FSD while your gey bears are at college getting arrested for antisemitism. LOL LOSERS. 
Let’s be honest, how many of you cut your account value in half betting against TSLA?
I got downvoted -5 being bullish on TSLA before earnings and I’m glad I’m still getting downvoted. $200 imminent p
Beginning of the end for TSLA bers
!banbet TSLA 148.36 57hrs.
TSLA 
Elon has always fucked gey bears in the ass. You shouldn’t ever bet against TSLA
Local dumpster is getting kinda roomy, everyone making it out with their GOOGL and TSLA gains 
If TSLA slumps next week down vote, and down vote if it moons
Some guy posted a 50k TSLA short at earnings, and then got fucked with no lube by a big green dick
TSLA can easily prove this in court using FSD mileage as a metric. The functionality of FSD is *not* determined by how much data it has been trained on. For example, if there are situations that Teslas will never be able to handle because they only have HD cameras and not LIDAR sensors, then obviously more miles will not solve that deficiency. If the new driven miles do not involve any novel situations, then they can't teach the AI anything about how to handle such situations when they come up. That is a relatively useless metric that they like to report because it always goes up, whereas if they reported a stat like "FSD feature-completeness" instead, it might look stalled.
TSLA puts will be printing this week :)
**Tesla – The New King In Town?** Tesla has been manufacturing electric vehicles for over a decade and has shown significant progress. They’ve managed to scale production, improve technology, and even achieve profitability, which is a notable accomplishment in this industry. **Tesla's stock valuation is absurdly high compared its actual revenue** Tesla’s stock valuation has indeed been a topic of much debate. While it’s true that Tesla’s current valuation is high compared to its revenue, it’s important to understand that stock prices are often driven by investor expectations about a company’s future earnings potential, not just its current revenue. Even so, Tesla’s stock is worth more than that of Ford, General Motors, Toyota, Volkswagen and Stellantis combined. Even though Tesla is an automaker, it’s valued as more of a tech company, with a share price that puts it in the camp of companies like Apple, Nvidia and Microsoft. **Rank \* Company \* Market Cap** 1 Tesla (TSLA) - **$536.71 Billion**, USA 2 Toyota (TM) - **$305.47 Billion**, Japan 3 Porsche (P911.DE) - **$87.57 Billion**, Germany 4 Mercedes-Benz (MBG.DE) - **$85.15 Billion**, Germany 5 BYD (002594.SZ) - **$84.72 Billion**, China Investors may be pricing in the expectation that Tesla will continue to grow and dominate the electric vehicle market, which is expected to expand significantly in the coming years. They may also be factoring in Tesla’s potential in other areas like energy storage and autonomous driving technology. However, high expectations also mean that Tesla will need to deliver on these growth prospects to justify its valuation. Any setbacks or slower-than-expected growth could impact its stock price. Tesla’s once-robust margins have been in steady decline since Q2 2022, but fell under 20% for the first time in years during the first half of 2023. Tesla reported margins of 18.2% in the second quarter, a result of the automaker’s many price cuts across all models and markets. CEO Elon Musk has attributed the discounts to lower demand in an uncertain economic environment, but analysts also see headwinds in supply chain issues and increasing competition. With the stock price continuing to tumble, bears say Tesla’s share price is starting to reflect the reality of the company: Tesla talks a big game, but in the end, it’s just an automaker with automaker problems. “They’re a metal bender like everybody else,” Kevin Tynan, senior automotive analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, told TechCrunch+. “The bulls want you to believe that Tesla is somehow a different kind of company, and it deserves a different valuation more like what you would afford to a tech company. But the reality is, it has automaker margins now. It has automaker problems and automaker cyclicality in its core business.” While the historical failure rate of auto manufacturers provides some context, it doesn’t necessarily predict the future outcomes for Tesla, Apple, or Google in regard to their respective auto manufacturing endeavors. Their success will depend on their ability to leverage their strengths, navigate challenges, and deliver products that meet the needs and preferences of consumers in a rapidly evolving market.
TSLA is a car company, a quick look at their books can easily show that. They are leading in very little, in fact without our tax dollars TSLA would be struggling harder than they currently are. Selling off government tax credits is what got them included into the S&P. Gotta give props tho, Elon Musk is the greatest re-inventor the world has ever seen!
So calls on TSLA, puts on China
TSLA sub 100 EOY. this is all the proof you need
Calls on TSLA Eventful and positive weekend
> TSLA doesn’t even sell their dojo chips Therefor... they never will? Besides the advantage TSLA has is their data.
She also bought a bunch of TSLA at around 200 as it kept falling
Never owned a TSLA stock, and never will. Tbh I never thought they would get this far, I thought like VW or Toyota would just start create their own EVs and win. Turns out it's the Toyota hybrid and chinese EVs that is the biggest competitors. I do enjoy watching what happens from the sidelines though. Also, what Elon Musk has created is astounding really, both Space-X and Tesla.
sell or hold: GME, TSLA, ARKX?
TSLA has so many problems and Musk has grossly overstated the cars capability. I’d never buy a TSLA. There are many cars in their price range that are significantly better.
[TSLA to $40](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1256239815256797184?s=46&t=5hrv4_fahRSlS6mSSui5eA)
RIP TSLA bears after this Elon China trip.
I joined X so I could watch TSLA FSD videos
In the past I had too many experiences like TSLA and META, so I just strangle everything now. Except if I’m very sure on the direction, which could be easier to be confident on for smaller companies.
I believe in Catherine Duddy Wood and I believe in TSLA. You'd be wise to get on this train now before it's too late.
No wonder asana stock is doing so poorly , the ceo is too busy shorting TSLA and is malding just like every TSLA bear
So many. They all ended up being wins but I guess I tend to sell too early. 1. TSLA bought at 25 sold at 100 (100 shares) 2. META (FB at the time) bought at 20 after is crashed following the IPO sold at 75 (300 shares) 3. Ethereum bought at 7 sold at 37 (1,000 ETH) 4. BTC bought at 800 sold at 2,500 (40 BTC) 5. COIN bought the dip recently at 52 sold at 110 (900 COIN) It is hard to complain about wins like these. But looking at what they have done after is sold is pretty rough. If I still had them (particularly the crypto) I would be much more comfortable in life.
AAPL will play like TSLA bad earnings already priced in
Cramer claims TSLA surge. This is the only DD we require.
I'm guessing she owns TSLA stock
Yep and remember he promised self-driving like 5-7 years. I do not see it happening for another 10 years as the NTSB does not like him as TSLA has not been open about the issues. What people overlook is TSLA manufacturing operation (metal forming etc) is more efficient than the big 3 that gives him a cost advantage.
This is bottom for you and TSLA
Well, now my TSLA shares are really fucked. Cathie has had a red thumb for nearly everything over the past 5 years.
You obviously haven't learned the lesson TSLA bears learned a long time ago. The stock doesn't trade based on logic or fundamentals. Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own. RIP.
At the time most of her funds held an overweight allocation of TSLA. Unheard of for ETFs, since the entire purpose is to diversify and reduce risk exposure. But she hit it big on TSLA, all those funds saw big gains. Suddenly, she was spun as the next Warren Buffett in the media. And like all big risk takers, they lose eventually. She wasn't an exception. Fund holder complaints required her to reallocate those funds for less risk
I consider TSLA & DJT to be similar; held up by gullible/foolish people causing it to ignore reality. The only difference being TSLA does actually sell a working product for the most part. Don't mess with TSLA if you're not part of Elon's cult.
I’m shorting TSLA in the coming days
>[$TSLA](https://twitter.com/search?q=%24TSLA&src=cashtag_click) CHINA PREMIER LI, ON MEETING WITH TESLA'S MUSK: TESLA'S DEVELOPMENT IN CHINA CAN BE CALLED A SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE OF SINO-U.S. ECONOMIC AND TRADE COOPERATION - CHINESE STATE MEDIA
This is why I think calls for this one. It was the same story with TSLA, shit earnings were already priced in.
The whole retail vs institutional investor thing is such a bullshit narrative pushed. Yes, options can affect stock price, but before going down that path the much more likely scenario is that it's priced in. TSLA was down 40% ytd. So why exactly was it logical to go down on a certain day for earnings? I'll give you a hint... it wasn't. The market liked the guidance and measures in place. Institutional investors weren't sitting around in Q1 waiting for this earnings release. When it became obvious Tesla had a real problem with demand and margins the selling commenced.
She called TSLA @ 5K pre-pre split and evenyone laughed. I'm not laughing today. She's had a few bad calls - but seems to know where Tesla is headed.
She also said TSLA was going to $2500 in 5 years in 2021. She’s only got two more years for that to come true lol, just a casual TSLA $15X
If the big players influenced this, for sure TSLA will go down again. Right?
Hey you’re ruining their coordinated pump-and-dump scheme! TSLA is whatever you can dream with trendy buzzwords
Shes a speculative regard. That knows nothing about Nvidia products. NVDA will be bigger than TSLA. You can max out your Roth on NVDA and make 10x more than these 10% yearly return funds. You can also buy LLAP and 5x your money in Q4 2024 earnings
He said you would say that: "I know I sound crazy to most people who don't follow $TSLA closely but at this point it really needs to be said," he wrote. "This is Enron now, folks."
Hey! I have puts on TSLA and feel offended!
Based on last week it’s tough to say (TSLA going UP after a big earnings miss etc.), I think Amazon is fairly valued and has upside potential like GOOGL did last week, they have services similar to MSFT and GOOGL so I’d bias a bullish prediction. I usually buy a put for protection anyway when I buy calls though so I can cut my loss potential a lot, even though it knocks some profit potential out it’s what works for risk management on these kind of trades
TSLA will shock the world
So Tesla is an AI company that sells cars, it wants to create a self driving segment so people can buy fewer cards, all the while it promises to mass produce cheaper cars with only 80% of its former workforce. No wonder calls are flying !banbet TSLA 190 1w
Think in going to inverse the WSB regards on this one and follow Cathy into some sweet TSLA
> having the best LLM won’t help Google solve self driving you're not going to believe this but have you head of google waymo? They have actual robotaxis running around while elon is still promising fsd 6 months from now for 6 years. Also Cathie has predicted TSLA to own 40-50% of AI market all inclusive. It is fair to consider all formidable competitors and not just Self driving ones
The counter argument to make is that FSD is a pipe dream and TSLA will need to refund customers. They have missed deadlines by years and overstated performance and continue to set expectations that are bound to be false. It’s a fraudulent product and bound to unwind those earnings.
TSLA made up a story, is one of the 5, so 🌙
Cathie is really only relevant because she is a woman in a male-dominated field and had that one amazing year or two because her fund was like 15% TSLA and the stock went from 180 to 2200. If you would replace her with a man and put them in the same situation nobody would even bother talking about them.
I'll try to explain the option game to you. Options are sold by large institutions (e.g. HSBC) which have the power to influence stock prices by buying or selling huge quantities. These institutions know exactly what options with what expiry date and wich strike they have sold to you regards. If a large group of regards buys now for example puts on TSLA with the same strikes and expiry dates, because everyone knows they will miss earnings, do you really think the seller of the options is willingly giving the small retail investor a ton of money? You guessed right, they won't. So, the next time you buy options because there is a popular sentiment that a stock will go up or down for a totally logical reason on a certain day (e.g. earnings report) do the opposite of what the majority does.
That’s really cool, can’t wait for them to deliver in 5-10 years. And I hope in between that time and now the utility of something like that isn’t rendered impractical buy like, putting the giant expensive chips in a water cooled non-shaking datacenter. (btw I had TSLA calls for earnings)
Cathie commenting reassures my $TSLA puts will print. A nice little pick me up on a Saturday night. Well vodka for everyone at the bar on this guy!
So puts on TSLA Monday morning. Gotcha!
- TSLA is just a car company - ChatGPT is a tool with no business value - NVDA is mostly hype - Ozempic is recession proof - MSFT is crushing AWS
Has TSLA shown fraudulent number in their earnings? What is this feuking news
Short it then lol. TSLA short sellers have been getting reamed and their funds forced to close down. This isn’t a cult, it’s the future of robotics and tech. Anyone who thinks it’s a car company is akin to people who said the internet was just a fad. It’s not
Dude lmao. When TSLA is at $1000 a share you can eat your words, until then the real investors know that time in the market beats timing the market and that trading it is a losing game always. HODL is not going to fail especially with Tesla.
Yep nothing but those two metrics. She’s right about where the world is heading (I think). But doubtful TSLA will deliver close to the monopoly she’s banking on.
I think most of dojo design team has left. TSLA probably themselves will have to buy nvda gpus for their next generation cluster. Tesla isnt even in top 5 of ai winners right now. That would be openai, msft, goog, meta and maybe perplexity imo
A and clearly, TSLA can do AI without NVDA
They're talking about deferred revenue. TSLA's auditors and accounting team recommends a certain % of FSD that can be recognized as revenue and the other as deferred revenue. Deferred revenue is basically revenue they expect to generate when delivered. Because some FSD features are not yet ready but TSLA has made improvements, they felt that they could generate a higher % of deferred revenue as revenue. TSLA can easily prove this in court using FSD mileage as a metric. There is nothing here to talk about. This is just some random person who thinks he knows more than licensed auditors working for the biggest firm.
my investment in TSLA is for the long term. a single tweet from Musk could send the stock 20% in either direction but the market opportunity with EVs and autonomous robotaxis is extremely compelling years from now.
Me trying to wrap my head around how this is gonna work when TSLA doesn’t even sell their dojo chips to anyone else and their latest version for the transformer architecture is already behind Google and NVDA blackwell
There's so much negative TSLA sentiments here by people who are casual stock investors. I've been investing in TSLA since 2014. You guys are hilarious. TSLA is doing better financially today than they were in 2018 when they were on the verge of bankruptcy. Outside of last year, TSLA is doing better financially than ever. So the stock is down. And? Do you know how investing works? TSLA is a long-term play. Most of what they're developing is a 5-7 year timeline. It seems some of you are newer investors and don't realize how poor of an investment Apple was decades ago. Imagine if you sold Apple shares before iPhone was introduced. "But Elon tweets too much." Yes, it's annoying. But it doesn't have the impact many of you seem to believe. Most Americans don't know a single thing Elon tweets about. Outside of America, I guarantee you people don't even care about what Elon tweets out. Most of Tesla's decline in vehicle sales this Q was in China - not America. The problem with EV's isn't exclusive to Tesla. If it was, explain to me why LUCID, Rivian, and other EV makers are all down. EV is just a bad industry to invest in at this moment because ICE vehicles can be purchased for cheaper and when the economy is having turmoil, you're going to pick an ICE over an EV. It's also hilarious how ya'll talk about TSLA's stock performance but Ford is performing the same the past year and I've yet to hear anything about Ford here. We get it, TSLA generates the most views, clicks, and interest here. No one wants to talk about Jim Farley. They want to talk about Elon Musk. And that's 90% of what happens in every TSLA-related post on here. It turns into an Elon thread. None of ya'll will actually discuss what the company is actually doing. It's 2024. Elon has been tweeting stuff for years now. No one cares about it. TSLA is down because EV sentiment is down and TSLA was priced for growth. TSLA hasn't yet capitalized on FSD improvements (though v12 is a huge improvement) and their robotics/AI has yet to result in a significant revenue line. There's also a large % of people moving away from TSLA to invest in other AI companies such as Nvidia and AMD. You guys are confusing stock performance with financial results. TSLA has a bad Q1 but the company is still doing fine operationally. High interest rates made their vehicles super expensive to buy so TSLA has had to lower the prices to match the monthly payment so people could actually qualify. If all you guys want to just talk about is Elon, it's funny I don't see any of you saying the same when a SpaceX post is made... because ya'll got nothing to say. And FYI, SpaceX is valued at over $200 billion with no shortage of investors looking to purchase shares.
I backtested long straddles on a couple other problematic underlyings: AMD & TSLA , these were nearly as volatile as NVDA but in the other direction. These also had a profitable year of long straddles. Most interesting is that profit is maximized with a slightly longer DTE and mid-expirey close: When using next DTE + closing next day or at expires, AMD/TSLA weren't worth it, but a 14DTE closing at 7 days was pretty good. `symbol strat total_profit min_profit max_profit` `-------- ---------------------------------- -------------- ------------ ------------` `TSLA d50_dte1_cdte7_max50_loss-200_buy 11.03 -6.3 16.14` `AMD d50_dte1_cdte1_max50_loss-200_buy 2.64 -8.82 11.45` `AMD d50_dte1_cdte7_max50_loss-200_buy 14.68 -6.47 11.45` `TSLA d50_dte1_cdte1_max50_loss-200_buy 38.08 -6.63 17.15` `AMD d50_dte14_cdte7_max50_loss-200_buy 152.32 -11.6 33.85` `TSLA d50_dte14_cdte7_max50_loss-200_buy 319.35 -10.66 29.37` For return on capital TSLA wins ! With a contract cost of \~ $1100 average and 5-6 contracts in flight at a time for a total of about $6600 at risk at a time, the outcome was $31,935 --> 480%
Where do you see TSLA within the next month? Above 200 is likely?
We already know how TSLA went
Half a million in TSLA in 2012. I sold it all. Don't know what I was thinking.
I'd trade all my TSLA for SpaceX stock if they went public.
No, TSLA is not another Enron. It is a real company. However, it is fair to question its future with growing competition and Elon betting the company on FSD which he has been promising for 8 years.
Now that all the TSLA earnings puts are expired it’s gonna dump
My friend group in college circa 2014 were big Elon Stans and I was trying to be cool and show off to my friends so I invested $5k in to TSLA. I held it for a few years, but sold way too soon. At it's peak it was worth a couple hundred grand