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Such_Coin

WW5 on Wednesday. Big week for world wars

Old-Collection-224

Wen WW4?

BlindSquirrelCapital

What brought down Rome was their over expansion and their inability to finance and pay for it as well as the corruption that developed. These are the exact same things that worry me about America's future. I am not for illegal immigration and it is shocking to me, that we as a developed country do not enforce security at our borders or have an orderly way for people to immigrate here but that still does not change the fact that immigrants over the past 200 years have played a vital role in the success of our country by working, starting small businesses and participating in our engineering, tech and defense programs. The development of our nuclear program and early missile systems and space programs would likely not have been successful during the start of the Cold War without many German scientists who ended up here after WW2.

rektefied

WW5

Roxfall

Working class will be fighting and dying. This will create a labor shortage. Survivors would benefit from that. However WW3 will most likely use nuclear weapons and then we have a completely different set of problems.

Gunzenator2

0% chance owner class dies in WW3

Gunzenator2

Bottled water bro. Missiles already have WW3 priced in and you can survive without TP.

Heliosium

Unironically the day it started. More like the Second Cold War than WW3 imo

Heliosium

Unironically the day it started. More like the Second Cold War than WW3 imo

heel-and-toe

If no other pandemy or WW3 occurs, CCL will eat that debt in 3-4 years and bring it back to pre-pandemic levels. It will buy back its shares or build more ships which will increase the earnings. This will make it undervalued. It has way more up potential than RCL.

Legolas_i_am

WW3 wen 🧐

St-Micka

If WW3 actually happens, nuclear weapons would almost certainly be used. You won't be enjoying any gains then from the fall out.

JDNCMONEY

If you believe in WW3 just blow All your money for fun or a bunker. Maybe Military shares. Regards from Cape Town

jelhmb48

Good luck moving your physical properties elsewhere when you are forced to relocate because the Russkys have invaded your lands or nuked your metro area. For a real WW3 you need something digital.

dwerp-24

There wont be a market to trade if WW3 happens.

vink_221b

Lobby the US government to make the safety of it's citizens dependant on a private entity. Be the owner/majority stock holder of this entity. Have the entity create and advertise shelters in case of disaster. Go to other companies and pitch them the idea of sponsoring the shelters and allowing them to use each shelter as their own little social epriment sand box of their choosing, assuring a return on investment. Instigate WW3 yourself for guarenteed profits and wipe out most if not all of humanity save for your shelters. Profit.

Reptilian_American06

Good luck cashing out your digital gains after the EMPs, the electric grid is taken down, the Internet fiber lines are cut, banks and brokerages are hacked and communication satellites are turned into space debris. For a real WW3 you need something physical.

dccapacitor

Dig an underground bunker, stockpile as much of canned food and bottled water as you can and pray that you would not be where the nuke hits. If you think you would still be comfy in your house trading stocks no matter where in the world you are, big mistake buddy WW3 will leave us in a fall out like scenario.

bruceki

The book postulated that the cost of war was so great that no war would be undertaken because we could never repay the cost of that war. Then WWI and WW2 and all of the other wars happened. Arguably the book is correct - we will never recoup the cost of the wars, but we keep having them and are there are wars now. We're about 30 minutes at any given time from a war spreading to the rest of the world. there are two men who could cause that to happen, and honestly there are probably 30 or 40 other men who could also do it. Heck, just cutting off oil to china in indonesia would cause a war.

TomatoSpecialist6879

Indeed. When WW3 starts and the draft comes, US government is going to buy all the Ozempic and force feed them to the fatties

IkaKyo

The fuck you doing telling people about a book that got popular right before WW1 and WW2? Do you want world war thee because that’s how you get world war threes.

Billythebeard

Don’t you get it. They know WW3 is coming. This is the dump before the pump. Just like the attack on Meta a year ago when it tanked to 80$

Billythebeard

Road infrastructure? Lol… it’s a joke. Especially if you live in northern climates where winters are harsh. Dodging potholes is a way of life. Just make sure you are not dodging potholes late at night or that becomes a probable cause traffic stop for the local revenue collectors (aka the police) Southern states the roads tend to be in better shape because they don’t have as frequent freeze and thaw cycles, nor do they have the heavy plow trucks destroying the pavement. The USA is a propaganda machine. Just because we have a massive military budget doesn’t mean we have a massive infrastructure budget. NAFTA kinda killed the country in the 2000’s. Peak America was the 1950’s with a revival in the 80’s and 90’s. Ever since the 2001 .com bubble crash and the ‘07-‘08 recession the country has been hanging on by its shoe strings. Covid has been one of the final nail in the coffin moments. The country was already struggling. JPows money printer enriched the ultra wealthy. Corporations were able to use “supply chain” interruptions to feel the market for price increases. Once inflation took off they already had their price targets set. Meanwhile Blackrock, Vanguard and every other major hedge fund that we’re enriched by the 2021 stock bubble, started moving assets into real estate causing an affordable housing shortage. I honestly see WW3 sparking off in the next 5 years. When Americas economy starts shitting the bed, we start lashing out and blowing things up. Calls Oil and Boeing when it bottoms out. Long on Raytheon and L3Harris.

BosSF82

Yes, this would be a nightmare. Having defined and limit trading hours though also helps act as a circuit breaker, limiting ‘dumb volatility’. Can you imagine the move in a 24/7 market during that ‘Israel attacking Iran’ ‘WW3!’ doom reporting from the other week? Which turned out to be a total nothing burger by morning. The markets would be severely punished from instantly being able to act on fresh fear that just needs to time to find more information.

Hopeful_Confidence_5

Exactly. Nothing since compares to WW1 or 2. Not even close. Not that it couldn’t happen again.

Beautiful-Remote-126

I may be pacifist leaning, but there won’t be a WW3. Global economies are too intertwined and I don’t even have to mention mutually assured destruction. And for there to even be a World war, there another super power would have to arise. Russia is far past its prime and China is on the verge of a population collapse.

JudgmentMajestic2671

Yeah. Redditors really suck the MSM tit hard. The anti Trump hysteria is comical at best. All the things they claim would happen under Trump, happened under Biden and even worse. Remember they claimed Trump would start WW3. Look at how many wars have kicked off. Trump stepped into North Korea. That was a massive win for calm relations. Huge kudos to Trump for doing that. He could have easily been shot dead right there. I wish MSM was actually fair and honest. People would realize that while Trump is flawed, he cares about America far more than anyone else.

Back_from_the_road

You may not be able to say whether the market is going to go up or down next year, but war is the safest of bets. It’s a money maker for those in power and transfers wealth from the masses to the few. If there’s one thing our leaders agree on, it’s a good war. Unlike the 1970’s America is no longer the world leader (due to being the only surviving economy post-WW2). The world has caught up and passed us. We stretched the money printer too thin in 2008 and never went back to fix the debt. If that happened again then there would be no money left to print. Other countries would quickly start using RMB instead of dollars. It would be no one at first. But, once one or two make the leap, the rest will quickly follow.

149AssetManagement

What’s stopping the market now? 1) WW#3 wasn’t all it was hyped up to be 2) Rates are high and trending higher, but market seems to shrug it off 3) Companies are making lots of money 4) Big tech is buying semiconductors hand over fist 5) Breadth is improving 6) Economy is a bit weaker but definitely not under credit stress

Unusual_Trouble8779

Yeah, even $30 an hr isn't even enough for much.... Like what do we all pick a stock go in on it Monday and then claim except on our taxes then file for bankruptcy all at once? To "win". Like work feels so pointless to go to other than everyone saying that they hate it there. We can't do anything because it's "illegal" but stocks can shoot up or down at open, lunch, and close TKO went from $95 then at 10pm to $100 all night till 2ish to 4ish back down to $95ish... Oop can't buy the dip and sell the high because of restrictions. The WW3 thing was so people would keep thinking the market will go down so they turned off the 24hr market so no one could sell it all and they couldn't keep up because too many of us were selling at once. We all sell at once and they go broke so they stop it because everyone was selling that day (Enough time to pass so most of the orders can't be excluded for the next day). THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY THEY SAY THEY HAVE, THEY CAN JUST CONTROL IT SO THEY GET THE MOST OF WHAT IS THERE, PAY THEMSELVES THE WINNINGS AND KEEPING THE STOCK AROUND WHAT IT IS AND PUTTING A PERCENTAGE TO KEEP THEM RICH AND USING THE DIPS TO MAKE MORE MONEY FOR THERE GAIN. When it's low they get paid when it's high they get paid. I'm going to eat my ice chips behind the Wendy's dumpster and pretend it's a baconator now. Best of luck you mother fucken, tittie sucken, cum guzzelin, anal beadin, fartin is like shittin without the messin, FULL GREEN TO RED COCKIN, diamond handin, 100%in FULL REGARDS!!! ❤️🖕❤️🖕❤️🖕❤️🖕❤️

FlyersTime

Biden promises anyone who dies in WW3 won't have to pay back their student loans - CNN

mar34082

WW3 pretty much mean we all lost, can buy stock when the world is Nuke town.

Life-Industry-1131

Over under chances on WW3 events that start in 2 hours and everyone forgets by Monday open

ZET_unown_

You sound gay lol But if you really wanna talk about this, there are people who profitted jn WW2 as well. It’s all about positioning.

stupdizbu

the fed does not need more data the fed knows they are fucked but they can't admit it why is the fed fucked? 1) they changed CPI from trailing 24 month average to trailing 12 months. What does this mean? It means that when we were seeing prints of 8%, 9% etc it was compared to the prior 2 years and now it just compares it to last year. When inflation was 9% and now it is 3%, that means it is 3% higher than when it was 9% higher, so the actual print is 9.3%. Inflation is still high as FUCK and sticky as fuck. The **only** way inflation has ever not reset all asset prices higher is with a deeeeeep recession 2) the treasury is FUCKED! the gov't keeps spending like crazy and they are paying out their fucking ass in interest payments. Treasury needs rates LOWER to not get fucked what solves everyones issues?! 1) WW3 2) deep recession 3) government shutdown for 30-60 days and have them stop spending god damn money pick yer poison

EmeraldWizzard

Oh, my bad. I didn't know you cannot read it without a Twitter account. Here is my DD: I bought $20 strike calls for $1M on [$SOFI](https://twitter.com/search?q=%24SOFI&src=cashtag_click) a couple weeks ago. They expire worthless if SOFI doesn't get over $20 by Jan 2026. Here's some of my DD (I leave out the obvious points like 30% revenue growth & 40% members growth), starting with sth not so serious, but interesting: 1. Risk-free: You get $300 if you open a SoFi savings account (and you get more bonus for referrals). Why not use this free money to buy shares of your favorite companies? And with new members SoFi stock would appreciate thanks to fundamentals, not because it's a meme stock. 2. Recession is the major fear not just for SoFi, but we had only 4 recessions in election years since WW2 - for a good reason. It's game over for Biden if we hit major unemployment this year. The establishment (including FED) will try anything to avoid Trump. 3. S&P 500 inclusion is on the table in around 15 months. That's also a reason why I have long-term calls. They were GAAP positive for the first time last quarter and plan to remain GAAP positive. Institutions currently hold only around 37% depending on your source. 4. SoFi retail community is one of the smartest and daily active (on YouTube and X). They go deep into the business and also call out BS that SoFi needs to improve (e.g. removal of inactivity fee). It's noteworthy that they keep talking about SoFi, even though the stock is down. 5. Alignment: CEO Anthony Noto and 2 other executives need SoFi stock to hit at least $25 by July 2026 to get part of their bonus. The rest of the bonus is paid if the stock hits $35 and $45, respectively and stays above these targets for 3 months. We are talking here $100M+. 6. SoFi is shorted with 18%+ of the float and if SoFi continues to outperform their expectations, this could get us into an interesting situation. 7. Fintech is not so interesting right now, but things are changing (Robinhood, NU Bank, maybe even PayPal with their upcoming stock purchases). We all know what a trendy sector (e.g. "AI") can do to all stocks representing this sector. 8. The management team is conservative in their estimates and hard-working, while consistently beating expectations. This is Anthony Noto, SoFi's CEO: \[3 min video of Anthony Noto doing cool stuff and saying cool stuff\]

WocketWaccoon

Bears praying for WW3 again this weekend 

gonebymidnite

Bers telling their wives, don’t worry hun WW3 is on the horizon we’ll be fine 

c4cooop

You are confusing interest rate risk with nonpayment risk. Risk free means 0 risk of default. If you get a treasury you will be paid. If you aren’t we are talking the downfall of America and WW3, so cash is useless anyway.

greyenlightenment

lol imagine shorting cuz you thought WW3 was breaking out

UtahItalian

I'm super tempted to exit my credit spreads. They are up 50%, but won't reach max value until EOD Monday at 507. I think that target is very achievable, but is the risk with it? Plus, WW3 starts this weekend so...

mugatucrazypills

Well it' down today. Who cancelled WW3 ?

Distinct-Race-2471

They wouldn't be dying if they had surrendered. Iraq was a sovereign nation too. Should they have all fought to the death against NATO? Afghanistan surrendered to the Taliban despite having a superior military force. Sometimes surrender is the right move. Fighting a proxy war against Russia is getting us way closer to WW3 than letting Kiev fall.

Shitmybad

Yes, definitely. Imo paying taxes is a chad move. But this is more about the delusional idea you have that you'll ever be paying it. You won't. Also Ukraine is the most important thing we can possibly fund ATM, they're literally holding back WW3 and can do it so well with our weapons.

4MadYoyo

They probably working on igniting WW3

Bangwin_

Naah don't pull that bullshit on me. It CLEARLY reads: •WW3 tomorrow •Calls on puts •Puts on calls •Short Staying-Alive-Index •Buy a bunker in a wendys dumpster Fuck me some people just don't seem to how know the languagge English speaking.

PeachScary413

WW3 is just a matter of where you want to be nuked and if you rather die instantly or from starvation/radiation later on.

PaleontologistNo7755

This feels like another WW3 spark note or chapter in a history book. Im sure if we look at previous wars this is a similar tactic cross countries transitioning their purchasing power into war time economic philosophy.

3xc1t3r

Well, you need money to stay safe and live a good life. This is universal. I think you have some rose-tinted glasses on the state of the US and the US economy. Being poor, working-class or even middle-class sucks at the moment, no matter where you are. Obviously, some places are worse than others. If the world truly shits itself and WW3 arrives. Would I rather be in the US? Of course, but then most things posted here don't matter anymore.

b00c

if it's about the war, there's enough crude to go around. It's the refining that is problematic.  Russia's fuel prices will go up if Ukraine keeps adding unwanted flare stacks in russian refineries. Same applies for WW3.  So downstream more then midstream imo.

Common-Classic8512

no WW3 would wreck bears, wars are always bullish

Bennylegend

The real WW3 was a nuking of the portfolios

bullrfuk

The only thing that can save bers from a total destruction is WW3 and even that could only bring the market down 2-3% at most

MrKhutz

If we look at other periods of hyperinflation that have occurred in the last 100 years - where we can see the utility of gold, and at the 2020 COVID crash and the 2023 regional bank crisis where we can see the performance of Bitcoin, gold would probably be the better choice - but note that I use the term probably. During the pre-WW2 hyperinflation in Germany - a developed, industrialized, democratic country at the time, the mark was terribly devalued and there was mass malnutrition but street fighting was limited and gold was useful to buy products with. I'm less familiar with other devaluation crisis - Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Turkey? But to my limited knowledge gold appears to have held a good deal of value in those cases as well. I've seen many people respond with bullets. A few hundred dollars of bullets might be useful. But if you've got hundreds of thousands of dollars of bullets, besides having a storage problem, you have to become an arms dealer to sell or trade them, which is inviting all sorts of risks I would rather avoid. In my opinion, Reddit comments often overestimate the probability of a financial crisis devolving into armed combat. But the heavily armed USA might be a different situation that I am underestimating... Bitcoin has generally acted as a risk-on asset and crashed along with almost everything else (except gold) in the 2020 COVID crash. But during the regional bank crisis in 2023 Bitcoin was strong. Could be coincidence or could be Bitcoin starting to be seen as a haven during financial instability. Not enough information for me to draw a conclusion at this point.

charly371

trust me i notice. ppl were doomer WW3...call were just so cheap

WeatherAgreeable1891

Yes, exactly! The majority of Americans did not understand that it was better for them for America to join WW2. It still was. The very unpopularity of the idea despite its value made it the pragmatic choice. Secondly, isolationism and protectionism are absolutely not the same thing. Chinese economic policy is incredibly protectionist but they have their chopsticks in every coffer with a flag on it wherever the sun shines. China is a formidable threat rivaled only by Americas vintage preeminence. Both are protectionist to varying degrees; the winner will ultimately be decided by who executes protectionist policy to mobilize the massive power of MNCs. To your gripes about protectionism: tell me how expecting a protectionist actor to engage earnestly in free market liberalist ideals while not hedging against the likelihood they don’t is a great idea and I will point you to the fact that the US government has been down that very same road over the last 20 years and is finally understanding the error of those ways. Protectionism is how states foster massive profit-extracting entities and deploy them at will where it is strategically beneficial. Isolationism is where states choke to death on their own farts. They are not the same and you should really consider whether you’re educated enough to espouse views on how the most powerful countries on earth should carry themselves. TSM to 0.

LostRedditor5

I mean 1930s Americans felt the pragmatic choice was to not join into WW2 So I don’t know about that chief. Protectionism and isolationist views never work. You gotta be out on the court playing the game if you want to get better.

spellbadgrammargood

scumbag Israel and Iran, didnt they didnt' cause WW3 so my puts are fucked and i have to work a double at Wendy's to make up the money...

FFnFinanceAcct

Fiscal deficit at WW2 levels, lmao.  We have a huge sovereign debt issue, everywhere 

EmeraldWizzard

Thank you! The major risk here is a recession. But I don't think we will see a recession in an election year. That is also good for other stocks. Since WW2 only 4 times in an election year we had a recession.

_foldLeft

China will not start a kinetic war with Taiwan, and by extension WW3. Will probably see peaceful reunification and kind of agreed spheres of influence in Asia/Pacific between China and US

greyenlightenment

WW3 still on or what?

UsuallylurknotToday

we literally rebounded from possible WW3 and regards thought spy would dump on *goooood* earnings?

ShitBeerAndMarlboros

This is what bears get for cheering on WW3. Divine intervention.

ShitBeerAndMarlboros

This is what bears get for cheering on WW3. Divine intervention.

spellbadgrammargood

QUICK! is Israel gonna be involved WW3 again this week? i need to know for puts!!

PotentialIll1054

Listen Investors, you’re a fucking idiot if you’re not loading up on Spy calls. The American economy is unstoppable, WW3 canceled, PCE data good

studmcstudmuffin

Y'all ready for WW3 to pop off?

forcefuze

Banks didn't collapse, only nearly had WW3, bfd. Nothing matters anymore. Just do whatever the fuck you want I guess 

Worried_Quarter469

Israel has only been a battle ground after WW2 Europe on the other hand was a battleground for oner a thousand years after the fall of Rome until WW2

Worried_Quarter469

United States forcibly evicted Palestinians to put Jewish people there after WW2 because Europe didn’t want them anymore So, the involvement is because the US made the situation.

PotentialIll1054

WW3- Cancelled Economy- on buss Meta Earnings takeover- deflected If you’re not leveraging yourself to the tits on spy calls tomorrow there’s no helping you

Joe_mex

Looks like we have WW3 in the metaverse 

Curious_Cancel3294

Bro they haven’t even released the earnings date yet and there has been zero news about RL lately. The stock market is recovering from all that WW3 talk. Put your phone away and take a deep breath. Have some faith that RL is overpriced garbage no one is buying anymore

Basic_Tomato483

WW3! WW3! 

SignalX_Cyber

Need WW3 by Monday to save port can someone call Iran president gay please

Infinite-Hedgehog283

WW3 is starting and people are saying “stocks only go up”

Otherwise-Ad6670

WW3 postponed until after Tesla moons.

kangadegen

WW3

jay_philip762

WW3 is always just around the corner. 😒

JakePatrick032

PFIZER did interesting things in WW2

Extreme_AppleChamp

Nothing is gonna happen to planet in at least hundreds or thousands of years due to climate change. WW3 has more chances of happening before that.. just think about it🤣

squirea1

“Nothing has changed”…it’s easing tensions because massive market cap companies are having good earnings. Also WW3 talk is so last week

Professional-Age8029

It takes time dude. WW2 had a long "phony war" period.

greyenlightenment

remember WW3 last Friday. lasted a whole hour

Worried_Quarter469

if you were alive during WW3, you’re now a veteran

Tim_Riggins_

Y’all remember WW3? That’s was wild

IdeeCrisis

WW3 is priced in. 

ShitBeerAndMarlboros

Bears just embarrassing themselves at this point. Sorry WW3 didn’t break out for you.

unwanted_hair

It started when Japan invaded China in the 1930s, but many say WW2 was just the second chapter of WW1.

UmbreFezz

So since earnings are already showing good #s, also no WW3, someone tell me how NVDA 5/24 900 calls aren’t free money?

Tim_Riggins_

Is that WW3 thing still going on or did they cancel that?

bdvfgvvcffc

WW2: starts after the invasion of Poland WW3: starts after Tiktok is banned

SexBeforeChurch

WW3 bear trap

PlasticText5379

The only way you didn't intend to equate them is if you have no grasp of a communication in general. Bringing one up right after the other very much does that. Unless you were just making an entirely random comment about WW2 and those sentences were not related in any way... which is even stupider.

killerbeeswaxkill

Everyone’s forgotten about the potential WW3 but keep buying the dip. 

peterpiotrper

So why am I writing this in WSB- because if you do not understand the how & why of all of this, you could end up as a bag holder of something worthless. Ask France after WW1 or Poland during the Communist era. TL;DR I Read all of these replies and let me add some context as an infantry veteran. 1. (You may have heard this before) There’s 3 languages in the Middle East: Hebrew, Arabic*, … and strength. (I’m ’lumping’ Farsi etc in with Arabic) The ayatollah and his cronies LOVE to bait Israel and they do absolutely want to be involved in making the Middle East ONLY their strict version of Islam. (Google: ayatollah death to the West and Israel Interviews go back to the 1960s between multiple ayatollahs of Iran. ) Israel has been defending from a perspective of restrain for over 1000 years! Oct 7, was a turning point and, yes, their continued assault has been devastating and merciless… or did we already forget what Hamas (voted in by the Palestinians who then killed members of the Palestinian Authority) put live babies in hot ovens, slaughtered elderly, rapped and tortured women and children not even 13 years old. Even killing Ms Vivian Silver, a Jewish woman whom the Hamas members knew because she helped their children and relatives get to medical care… they slaughtered her. The atrocities were disgusting. Too many articles to cite, but use this for Bivian Silver: www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67413993 2. If you think Netanyahu is being harsh, Id suggest some history: - Munich Israeli Olympians (civilians) killed by Palestinian militants. Check Israel’s response. - Pay for Slay program from Iran / Iraq: paying suicide bombers families for ‘a job well done against Israel ABC News - GAZA - 2022 Dec 19 “Saddam Hussein’s regime PAID 25k to PALESTINIAN families of suicide bombers”… when you want to see Also on CBS news: ‘salaries for suicide bombers’ - 9/11 Palestinian Authority BLOCKS coverage of Palestinians *cheering* 9/11 attacks -www.foxnews.com/story/arafat-horrified-by-attacks-but-thousands-of-palestinians-celebrate-rest-of-workd-outraged 3. “But we should just understand their side” Ok: here it is - www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/world/middleeast/hamas-israel-gaza-war.html www.nypost.com/2023/11/01/opinion/ghazi-hamad-interview-proves-israel-must-destroy-hamas-2/— while it’s an editorial, Ghazi Hamad is quoted 4. It’ll get worse until 6 nations go against Israel and those nations get crushed (Ezekiel 38-39) - don’t like biblical references? Sorry this is a war based entirely on religion and the right to exist. You need to understand the context of why this is occurring.

Heliosium

I remember when the suicide hotline post dropped last week & I went to check SPY it was down 0.79%  a real drawdown in equities might catalyze WW3 on its own if traders are this soft now

BagHolder9001

nah that bullshit story ran it curse, they are trying to scare people with WW3 and that's fading, I think we will see another UFO or what they call them now? To keep the smort pesants bussy scared and working

boboleponge

We all believed we lived in a democracy, yet we recently discovered that when you oppose mayhem, since the political correctness forbids you to call it a genocide, then you are an antisemite. Apparently words are worst than bombing children. Apparently there are terrorists that you catch by tracking them, and there are terrorists who are sooooo bad, that you can kill anybody on the path. unconsciousness is at its peak, we are at WW Germany level of denial. Obviously, future generations will look at us with contempt and disgust, but we don't care about that. How many people under the rumbles?