IMX

bananastand512

IMX

Quixote0630

I've been topping up my IMX and ONDO bags every time they hit around $2 and $0.75. Often seem to bounce around there. Also like INJ a lot around the current price.

2BFrank69

Aero , ABT, Goldfinch, IMX, Kaspa, Neon EVM, PNG are my biggest bags

2BFrank69

Areo, IMX, ABT, Kaspa

TripFeisty2958

RNDR, IMX, etc.

Olskoolah

Same thing happened with IMX on Upbit listing about 6 months ago. 50% God candle. Sold and bought back at pre-pump price a week later. Just did the same with my AKT. Upbit listings are a gift.

idk_wtf_im_hodling

Heavily into PYR, SUPER, AIOZ, PRIME, IMX, BEAM, ORCA, PYTH, ETH, RONIN and a few others in small amounts

millennial-snowflake

Alts I'll be stacking during this beautiful gift of dip: AVAX (or SOL if it dips harder), IMX, FET, AIOZ, AKT, NEAR Let's fkn go. Down further first... Then back to bull after more stacking. 💪🏼

glistofor

PePe already did 10x , IMX did 8x , RUNE did 6x

Quixote0630

Picked up some AKT, RNDR, INJ, and IMX on the dip. All steadily recovering. Decent morning.

2BFrank69

I’m just joking. I didn’t sell anything. My bag can’t get past 23k though. Keeps hitting 23k then dips to 20k again. I’m patient though. My bag is mostly BTC, Kaspa, Tao, IMX, Aero, Archblock and Neon

2BFrank69

Yes. I’m big on Aerodrome, Archblock, Kaspa, BasedAI, Tao, Brett, IMX, Suku, Myria, Neon EVM and Pangolin.

ValorousAnt

I’ve never touched XRP. This cycle I’ve been 100% inside IMX game assets and tokens

Ok_Channel9726

Sell the the Bitcoin Cash. You'd be better off putting that money into Bitcoin or Ethereum. Solana would be my next choice. It seems to be the popular Ethereum alternative this cycle. Next I'd look into an Ethereum layer 2 either Polygon (matic) or Arbitrum. If you really want to risk and Yolo some of your money for the highest gaines but most risk, I'd look into some of the gaming platform tokens like BEAM (formerly merit circle) or IMX.

LargeSnorlax

That's because no one (especially here) actually uses Crypto. The amount of people that I've seen asking what a private key is or asking why they shouldn't stake on exchanges makes my brain explode. Don't get me wrong, SOL's had its growing pains, especially in 2021. It's had plenty of problems. But let me tell you, if you have the wrong amount of Gas, or if the network is congested, you just try again at another time, you don't have to do [some frankenstein creation of nonce manipulation like you have to on eth to rescue your transaction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6xbcjNDFO0) and you don't have to wait days until Bitcoin finally cares about your transaction that maybe didn't pay slightly enough gas to get included. All these people that are always talking about using L2s - You think anyone outside the Crypto sphere is using L2s like Arbitrum or IMX unless someone metaphorically holds a gun to their head and forces them to learn how to? The people in this space *don't know how to use a wallet*, let alone get to or use a L2. WETH? What the fuck is that? Bridging? Base? Huh? Ape only click Coinbase wallet, no know fancy words. SOL you send and you use. That's the appeal. Some people are priced out of chains [where sometimes it costs $100 to make a transaction you want to do](https://i.imgur.com/jlk2LbA.png). Weirdos who refuse to acknowledge that "their" chain has any flaws will try to poke holes in this but the reality is that some people **don't want to deal with that bullshit** which is why many users are flowing over to SOL and congesting it.

Quixote0630

Then you're holding shitcoins. Bitcoin is up 400% from the bottom, ETH 300%, SOL 1500%, ICP 300%, IMX and AVAX 400%, Near 600%, Injective 1500%, and endless coins in hot narratives like DePIN, AI, gaming, RWA, (Render, Akash, Bittensor, Beam, etc.) are up 1000%+ Even in a bull run, you still have to do some work and pick the right coins. For those that stuck with it and kept buying through 2022, this is definitely a bull run.

ValorousAnt

In 2021 I was doing emotional moves both ways. Classic buy high sell low. This time I’m just numb. I somehow don’t care about this bullrun at all. I follow the IMX game projects and play some of them but other than that I’m somehow perfectly resistant to all the FOMO and all. Idk why. Just don’t care about money right now. Don’t have much, don’t need more, don’t want to be left holding any bags. So here I am just maintaining my positions being the calmest I’ve ever been

Sithaun_Meefase

On these pullbacks I’ve been buying IMX the volume on the run up is fucking crazy haha great short term trade.

Hot_Jeetos

In this order of holdings: BTC Solana ETH Algo XRP Chainlink Filecoin Matic Truefi (this is my current fave low cap, performing very well) HBAR Wif LTC ADA Coti The Graph IMX Uniswap Slerf Audius BCH BNB Peng ​ I would probably not have held XRP, Matic, ADA, The Graph, Peng and Uniswap if I could redo but everything pumps in the bull. Obvs Solana is the best performing (900% up currently). I'm not looking to buy again really, maybe when we get the first big pullback. What are your current fav low caps?

jekpopulous2

zkEVM, Manta, zkFair, X1, Astar, IMX, Canto, Merlin etc... are all Polygon chains. There are more chains building on Polygon CDK than any other rollup framework and once AggLayer goes live Polygon will have deeper liquidity than any other rollup ecosystem.

Ok_Channel9726

Low risk - Eth Med risk - SOL High risk - BEAM (formerly Merit Circle not the other one) or IMX

Sithaun_Meefase

I second IMX.

Spkr4th3ded

IMX to the moon. Gaming is always a solid bet.

Tartooth

Fuck IMX They keep diluting and selling into bullish waves. Take a look at the chart for this recent bull run. "Someone" kept selling off huge amounts of IMX pegging it below $3.60 when it should have reached $5+ A quick look at top holder wallets and you see a pattern on the transfers...

Quixote0630

What narratives are you betting on for the next part of the cycle? Still difficult to look past DePIN, AI, and to a lesser extent gaming. But it looks like RWAs might crash the party. I've been holding coins like IMX, AKT and RNDR since last year, but also building positions in AR, ONDO, and PYTH more recently.

CelticBlue22

IMX is web 3...... this bull run is mainly about layer 2 and BTC.....most web 3 gains will be the NEXT bull run, not this one.

Dre512

Render, FETCH, IMX, Gala, Illuvium, PRIME, SUPER, Vulcan Forged

Walms82

IMX gonna do big things

dopydon

if you don't have IMX you're taking the fattest L of your life

Positron49

Not from what I understand. IMX runs a Polygon zkEVM that requires 20% of transactions to use IMX, which is different from the Polygon zkEVM in general. Polygon messed up their zkEVM but everyone else operating one kept theirs going.

jekpopulous2

What I’m trying to understand is why none of the zkEVM CDK rollups went down. Manta, zkFair, IMX, Astar, Canto, X1 beta, etc… were all fine even though they’re using zkEVM code for their sequencers and provers. Polygon must have pushed an update to their own zkEVM beta that hasn’t yet been introduced to the CDK yet. I guess we wait for the postmortem to find out.

ThenCriticism4213

Is IMX effected by this outage?

kakwntexnwn

I'm giving away the list of the winners 🏆 below since I did more than 900% 14 times: I would split the usdt in half: Then the first portion (25k ) would be divided by 6: Eth Ada Hbar Gala Beam Render The second half of the total amount (25k) would be equally divided to the altcoins below: Fet ai Numeraire (NMR) Pyr Binary X Sui Op Palm Paal 0x0 Graph Chain link IMX Near Avax Aptos Tia Agix Cotti Floki Pepe Shiba Dodge Bonk WIF Xrp Sol

WorldSpark

Cardano, IMX , opt

jmido8

LRC, but it's really my own fault. I stayed with them and kept doubling down on a sinking ship even though they had so many big sell signals like... ​ GME partnering with IMX and refusing to mention LRC at all despite LRC being a partner. The CEO leaving to start a new company with one of LRC's major techs. The EX-CEO dumping shitloads of his LRC and tanking the price. LRC / GME partnership ending with the failure of the GME marketplace. ​ I lost a lot of money on LRC and it taught me some valuable lessons, especially about taking profits and not marrying your bags. I was up almost 4x at one point with LRC, and rode it all the way down to -80% by doubling down with my DCA's. Just because something has a low marketcap compared to similar technologies, doesn't mean they will catch up to those marketcaps.

AdamFitri2005

Myria is like IMX but low cap

Sithaun_Meefase

Check out what IMX is doing. They have been putting in serious work this bear market. The latest release was the passport. A decentralized wallet that allows ownership of in game assets. They are on the cusp of revolutionizing ownership within gaming, if they can pull it off. I’m heavily invested, exciting watching their roadmap unfold.

Top_Ad_188

I didn’t get my tax money UNTIL the top…. Shoveled all of it into alts only. Down on everything. If I would’ve had money a year ago to invest I would have 100%. Holding bags rn RENDR @ $11.26 IMX @$3.12 NEAR @$7.67 ILV @$1.42 EGLD $61.56 ICP $13.69 AGIX @ $1.25 Etc.

BUFFARILLA_HUNTER

Total newbie with IMX and GALA. What are your thoughts? I'm just starting my research and trying to decide if either is investable. Thoughts? Main differences between the two?

Buckshot211

STX, FET, IMX will be solid choices this run

jekpopulous2

Fundamentals change because the APY for POL staking will increase dramatically without effecting inflation. The new POL token has native restaking for any chain using their zk CDK / prover. That means when you stake POL you won’t just be earning POL rewards. You’ll also be earning IMX, MANTA, ASTAR, CANTO, OKX, ZKF, etc… all the AggLayer tokens. POL’s staking APY could go from 4% go 40%. I’d say that changes the fundamentals quite a bit.

Quixote0630

I wish I had a little more left in the reserves. I'd probably be buying a mix of AKT, INJ, and IMX. The last two especially have seen a nice 25% dip on the weekly.

millennial-snowflake

Ahh the BTC maxi strategy... Personally, I'm not a maxi. But I do think BTC should be the heaviest weighting in your portfolio. But it's up to everyone's different financial circumstances. For some people being a maxi works great. I'm over 65% BTC and ETH, with the rest in different sized alts. I do hold a small (<1%) amount of ICP, I think it's promising and reasonably priced, but also not a big allocation. That's just me. If you're going to dip your toes in alts I'd recommend going with newer ones personally. Crypto space is obsessed with new. Like AI coins or dePIN or newer gaming platforms like IMX/BEAM, even new memes but be prepared for them to go to zero. Just make sure alts are a small part of total portfolio and again, take profits regularly.

AGROCRAG004

So far new meme coins have been killing it…Dogwifhat, BOME, MOG, pepe…I know they will all go down 90% when the bulls over but right now that’s where the massive gains are…on the safer side once the bull gets into full swing I like AVAX, IMX, JUP, ETH, and Beam…gaming and possibly AI this cycle…L2s are more useful but also don’t have the same potential imo

millennial-snowflake

Hahaha gardening and INJ + IMX person now 😬 hey what's up friend! How's life in Germany? Glad you're still around too! Hope you're making lots this run!

dopydon

good job on picking IMX. too many around here are LRC fans.

Quixote0630

The narrative isn't as strong with XMR as it is with other coins. It's old, often ignored. The bull run likes new, shiny things. BTC is hot because it's the OG and institutions want it, and SOL is hot because it's ETH closest competitor, is fast, cheap and has memecoins. They're safe bets. Beyond that, DePIN, AI, and gaming are looking like this bull run's hot narratives. If I were you, I would throw most into safer bets like BTC and SOL, and then a little into the narratives I mentioned above. It's worth doing your own research for that part. Find projects you really like. But to get you started, check out RNDR (AI/DePIN) and IMX (Gaming).

jekpopulous2

Polygon zkEVM, Manta, IMX, Astar, Canto, OKX X1, zkFair, etc… are all built on Polygon zkCDK and will be part of AggLayer. Polygon POS is also upgrading to a zk-validium in a few months. The current POS chain doesn’t benefit from blobs but there are more rollups building on Polygon zkEVM CDK than any other framework.

TheWillOfFiree

ETH has more to do with it. Things like IMX, matic, or other L2 on it are going to be one too adopted to ignore. But fuck if you can't cover 80+$ gas fees with a big portfolio it feels bad. Sol is so fast and cheap in comparison. A normal middle class human like me loves sol. That said I own more eth.

Quixote0630

SOL, RNDR, IMX. They won't put up crazy multiples from here, but the narrative is strong with all of them.

Quixote0630

IMX is probably the safest bet. It'll likely lead the gaming narrative, but still has plenty of room to run. They have partnered with BEAM, also a decent bet, imo. On the topic of quality, check out games like Shrapnel (has a token) and Off The Grid. They're going for AAA quality. On the whole, I agree with what you said about the lack of quality, but I think it's inevitable that web3 gaming crosses that line into the mainstream. Probably during this cycle, at which point the entire narrative will run. FYI, I'm only holding IMX.

TsarAlexanderThe4th

Check out IMX

Quixote0630

I like INJ, but if I was going to move it all into another top 50 coin then I'd probably go with IMX, RNDR, or HBAR.

Quixote0630

Not against a memecoin or two, but definitely diversify. AI, DePIN, and gaming narratives are looking really strong. Something like RNDR, FET, IMX, BONK + one more would be way more balanced. Could go for lower cap projects in the same narrative if you want to up the risk/reward. AKT instead of RNDR, BEAM or SUPER instead of IMX, etc.

Thriving_donkey

My mistake last cycle was chasing pumps. This cycle I stick with what I have. Today I got rewarded with an LRC pump after I considered selling it for IMX a few weeks back. Glad I stuck with the agreement I made with myself.

mrdougan

Still in LRC / IMX / DOGE will ditch them at the end of the month for the capital gains threshold in uk and buy into different projects next tax year

dopydon

you gotta compare charts man, rndr did what IMX did and is prepping to do an AVAX

dopydon

i expect IMX to pull a RNDR

bananastand512

IMX is turning into my favorite hold right now. Love its price movement, and its chart looks so cool on CB, it's like a mirror image of itself.

bananastand512

Oh and IMX, I think that's up like 30%. The only things I've actually doubled so far are memes.

Traveler-0854

idk, i got 1000 SOL at $55 10k MATIC at $0.67 100k IMX at $0.75 TOO much PEPE/BONK/SHIB to count. It could all dump and i'll still be up a huge amount.

millennial-snowflake

IMX is the big boy in gaming this cycle. SUPER might also be a good one they've got some nice partnerships

AdamFitri2005

AI large caps: TAO or FET AI mid-small caps: AIOZ or DGI Gaming large caps: IMX or BEAM Gaming mid-small caps: MYRIA or DUEL

Quixote0630

Annoyingly sold my BEAM a couple of days before it pumped last time. Holding a sizable bag of IMX though. I think it'll do well.

bananastand512

Gaming season soon--- I feel it. But I don't know shit. IMX and GALA are my picks. BEAM also on the radar.

bigdawg363

I think large gains will be made in large and mid cap alts. Here are the coins I'm holding rn: Link Dot Dodge IMX Super RNDR Sol Avax

hrehman1972

I’d DCA into BTC/ETH/Render/Fetch/IMX and very little into Shib/Pepe

Guy_Incognito97

I think it's risky as this point. BTC is going to pump again and when it does all the money will get sucked out of alts. I'm waiting for a significant ATH, then a pullback, wait for the price to settle, and then pick up some alts. DOGE is probably a good bet and I like IMX. If Disney's NFT project launch coincides with general crypto excitement then I can see FLOW exploding.

peakrumination

Not heard about this. How does that work people holding IMX on Ethereum?

_BannedAcctSpeedrun_

LRC is basically a project that rode the GME wave in 2021 and people bought in thinking it would become something big and it just didn’t turn out that way, just like how the GameStop NFT marketplace and crypto wallet is already dead and wasn’t the MOASS catalyst people wished they would be. I’d be surprised if LRC gets any momentum at all this bull cycle with so many better L2 options since 3 years ago. Same with all the IMX holders.

Own-Throat-4390

Got rid of LRC since IMX is moving to Polygon looks like. Just rolled it into IMX

rysama

Everything in there but LINK is meme tier. I don’t know enough about IMX, but a Layer 2 isn’t a bad idea.

CaterpillarHungry607

Gaming narrative is strong this cycle. Hasn’t gone parabolic yet. Also look at IMX.

bananastand512

I have been DCAing down my GALA as well since 2022 and am almost at break even! I actually like GALA and could see myself trying to use their platform, I'm really not concerned with the founders legal feud, and I think it will blow over eventually. I'll be happy AF if it runs up to .10. I have been toying with adding some BEAM as well. I'm mostly in IMX, GALA, and now Illuvium.

yunoeconbro

I have a very small amount (4k) in the I exchanged from another shit coin that has since blown up (IMX). Nobody knows shit. But I do think the days of starting with nothing and becoming fabulously wealthy with crypto are over. &#x200B; I'm also feeling the fomo now, and am thinking about putting a decent chunk change in. But honestly, it's so volitile. I remember all the times I jumped into things and got burned because of the dumps. It's a hard sell for me right now to buy in when it's high. It could very well be another "buy high, sell low" situation. Be careful. If you do go in, just put a small amount in. I's not worth betting the farm. A few whales take profits and you are having a hard talk with the wife.

juice702_303

I played this a couple years back when it was on the IMX marketplace and think its one of the few blockchain games that works and is actually pretty good.

MissingInAnarchy

LRC. Web3 will get (eventually). Oh and IMX & TRAC ain't bad alternatives.

SerHiroProtaganist

IMX - for the gaming narrative OP - eth layer 2 governance token for Optimism. The coinbase Base layer 2 is also built on the OP tech and base doesn't have a token. Therefore my thinking is if Base takes off in the bull, OP token price goes up TAO - bittentose tao for the AI narrative. It's the most legit one out there I think that stands a chance of being successful Oh and honourable mentions for shitcoins/memecoins: $poop - reddit meme coin airdropped to poop head avatar owners. I had loads of poophead avatars so I'm. Not far off 1% of the supply. The only coin I'll ever be close to being a whale in lol. $frame - a coin created within the new social media / twitter style app, Farcaster. Just because it's actually a good app and all the eth native ppl hang out there, so I figure if eth pumps, frame token is my memecoin of choice Non fungible token holdings: Good ENS (ethereum name service) domains Mfers

laguna1126

I don't know what's going on with IMX, but they have risen VERY nicely this "bullrun"

islanda_1973

In 2 days the mobile version of the web3 game Gods Unchained will be finally released, after 2/3 years of waiting. Bullish on Gods and IMX

TrueRiddler

IMX

Dre512

IMX, Beam, RNDR, FETCH, ILV, SUPER

RandomNordicGuy

Bought a bunch of avalanche and Solana around the Lows. Biggest positions BTC and ETH. Some IMX I'm just going to camp on and see what it does in a year. Only thing I'm currently buying is BCH and LTC. Really want to be done buying all together by the halving just for tax reasons.

Sjiznit

LRC and IMX are my alts

ale23arg

well I am currently looking into Fare $FLR. Haven't invested yet but im about to. My take on IMX, ADA, SOL, LINK, MATIC is that in order to make sure they are good bets you have to get more involved in the token. I was involved in HNT at some point and I loved the project but then their miners began getting spoofed and it was like a huge "printing" of tokens which devaluated greatly. The project is still going but I kind of lost interest. IMX and RON are both gaming chains. So is MATIC (kind of) so in that space, you have to look at the games they have, the amount of users etc. The worst thing that gaming chains in the space can have is a play to earn mechanic heavily reliant on the "earning" aspect. That was how some of the main games in ronin were at the begining. There are a bunch of games that you go in, make a couple of clicks and that "mints" tokens. The more expensive nfts you have the more you can mint and that is what gets everything inflated....

IAmSomewhatDamaged

Thanks for taking the time to type that out. Will definitely take a good look at RON 👍🏻. I do hold some IMX, so that’s interesting. I have several altcoin holdings (ADA, SOL, MATIC, LINK, SOL, among others), but I wanted to get in on something new before everything begins skyrocketing.

ale23arg

They are not that new... But right now most of my crypto investment (about 50k) is within the Ronin ecosystem. Ronin is an L2 dex. Just got introduced into binance and it's been announced it will get into coinbase. I'm have most of it on a liquidity pool if WETH-Ron that gives about 30% apr in liquidity rewards and about 70% apr in Ronin as staking rewards. Now that sounds too good to be true because it never lasts .. 3 months ago when Ron was about 0.5 the staking rewards were about 30% because you were rewarded on a token that had a lot less value than what it has now.... Also starting March 1st starting rewards will be halved so I'm expecting that 70% come back to 30% which is still pretty good. Everything here is hot without risks .. if the token tanks back to .5 my 50k would go to like 10k.... Even though I keep getting rewards on said token.... Doing some basic analysis of the chain is direct competitor would be imx. Ron has way more active users and daily active wallets and I believe those are real people vs imx model which kind of gives incentives to bots since most ofb it is transaction based. IMX has a market cap of like 4.3 bill and Ron is like 0.8 B. Now that's mostly because of circulating supply vs supply. Ron has a fixed supply of 1b tokens but it has yet to be distributed fully (and won't be for some time) but if we estimate the market cap based on the total supply ron should be 3b instead of 0.8. I am still very bullish on RON and it's ecosystem. One of the main games from polygon migrated over with five success and now imx is losing projects to Ron.

Machete521

Makes the IMX and GODS pumps seem reasonable then

Sugarbird676

Why is IMX so popular? I know it’s a gaming platform, but that’s about all I know. What are people hoping it will be used for? 

TheWillOfFiree

For the 2021-2025 cycle. BTC/ETH/IMX/SOL. That's 90% of my portfolio. 10% spread on gaming / AI projects. I allow myself 10% to gamble with for fun.

uhhh-000

IMX - Immutable X will be the first web3 gaming platform with 1m DAU

jrodshoots

BTC IMX SOL ETH all you need

Embarrassed-Exit1450

Consider some smaller tokens which are more likely to grow by percentage points. PYTH, IMX are solid choices in my opinion. Do your own research, everyone here has a different plan and intent (including myself) that might not align with you

RandomNordicGuy

It doesn't really matter if they are legit. What matters is the narrative or appearing legit. Do they keep going up? Not always but usually. Eos was probably the last major rug pull that looked like it was going to be something but wasn't that I lost money on, a lot of the blatant scam projects are pretty obvious if you're seasoned. Some people lost money on Luna though. That one, it was just too heavily promoted which set off my Spidey senses. There's kind of a rotation going on this time which is interesting. You'll see one of the popular tokens do well, then another, then another and they just kind of rotate their way up. Like in gaming IMX looks like it's going to be a top performer. I'm not even 100% sure what it does I just know that's the sector and I look at the chart. Money is going there. Avalanche is in the maybe category. Good narrative but it's been stagnant. Solana had an early run, made a lot of people mad that missed out on it. You may notice the trash talking on here. These are the people that are kicking themselves for not buying it at 20 bucks. Do I think it is going higher still? Yes, lots of VC money but also people probably looking to exit so, a 5X maybe to the top? Probably but beyond that it would require retail to really fall in love with it and levering up. The mania phase of the bull is the fun part because everyone starts getting on leverage. That's the unsustainable run. It typically lasts less than 90 days but gets pretty wild. If anyone is reading this, when you see Bitcoin moving 5 to $10,000 a day pretty frequently like multiple times per week. My advice? Sell everything especially if this is happening mid to late 2025

mikeoxwells2

I bought into the LRC hype too. I’m not hurting as bad as most, but still so deep in the red it’s almost purple. After the price plunge I was skeptical on IMX. Another missed opportunity.

Cannister7

Haha, no, although I got some of that too, but a bit late. I'm only up to about 170% on IMX. Wish I'd given up on LRC sooner and bought IMX when it was talked about in conjunction. Nah, just a small cap on DEX from one of the guys on X, looks good so far but who knows?

sportspadawan13

If you want a bigger return, do $100 here and there in a few potential huge ones like VET, KRL, IMX, smaller things that might blow up. If you want the most "guaranteed" gains (re:not at all but more likely) go top ten to top fifteen. Things like BTC, ETH, DOT, LINK, SOL, AVAX are going to be solid gainers. Not 100x. But 2-5x type of coins, especially DOT given it still has a long way to go (but also biased). Seems SOL has big hype behind it this cycle but I barely have any sadly.

bananastand512

IMX and ETH carrying my port right now lol noice

TrippingBananas

Why does nobody talk about IMX?

celtic_cuchulainn

I wouldn’t say I’m a huge crypto enthusiast. I like the tech, but I can totally see the gamer’s argument that incorporating crypto can ruin the fun. I just want digital ownership and transparency. Afaik, there isn’t a popular TCG on steam marketplace. Where IMX is going with their passport is to make fun games with nfts in the backend if you care to use/trade em. Otherwise you would never know they existed.