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shadowmage666

Most of the posts there are bots or people trying to FUD coinbase. The ones who actually have their accounts frozen are probably breaking AML laws somehow

LuigiSqueezy

Bitcoin does what it does, so that naysayers such as yourself can FUD from the sidelines, whether from a position of disbelief or from a position of a CIA cubicle.

Pale_Werewolf3270

It’s prolly a mixture of ppl who broke the rules regular ppl who accidentally broke the rules (not declaring on taxes using a vpn etc) and paid FUD and I’m sure there’s a few people who just got screwed

TheGreatMuffin

> It is telling that OP's point has not been robustly addressed and quite a few comments boil down to "huuurrr duuur FUD". Mostly it's because the only objective answer to OP's (valid) critique/question is that "time will tell". There is simply no way to predict what the on-chain activity on the network & the bitcoin price will look like in a decade or a century from now on. So both sides just speculate.

neosBentSpoon

Your analysis supposes there exists a group who would invest billions of dollars into buying and maintaining an operation that makes bitcoin transactions annoying only as long as they're wasting the electricity to keep up the attack. In this case they're losing money (paying for electricity, upkeep on equipment, opportunity cost, etc.) for every minute they try to attack the network. This can't continue forever. Meanwhile, by that point there will be a lot of bitcoin on the lightning network or some future layer 2 that is cryptographically provably within the transaction rules of bitcoin. Bitcoin transactions will still take place as usual and the attacker gets burned in the process. If the attack is serious enough the network could find ways of dealing with it when the time comes. This FUD isn't grounded in reality.

Alma_Sebosa

It is telling that OP's point has not been robustly addressed and quite a few comments boil down to "huuurrr duuur FUD". You make a valid point OP. I imagine that access / usage of the baselayer will eventually be reserved for the institutionally rich, governments, hedge funds etc. They will have a shared interest in preserving the "status quo" of the network as a function of being the biggest holders. The "miners" in the sense that we understand them now will give way to these people, who will have no choice but to keep the system going as they depend on it to one extent or another or just in order to keep "the other guys" from taking control and causing havoc. That is \*IF\* BTC does become adopted at a sovereign level, which at this point is not 100% certain at all. At the end of the day it is very hard to speculate what 100+ years of development will do to this technology, to the global economic system, governance systems, to us as a species even if you take into account the way we are going with climate change etc etc...

BigTimeButNotReally

Been lurking but not reading, eh? This is foolish FUD.

jimjamj14

Care to elaborate? Or are you just blindly spouting FUD cause you bought high and sold low?

One_Boot_5662

People seem FUD, what I'm actually doing is telling them the truth. Do I think a nation state will try to attack Bitcoin; no. But we have to assume it might and build defenses.

BigTimeButNotReally

Can't tell if you're hyperbolic, panicking, spreading FUD, or trolling. But you don't seem like your acting in good faith.

russbird

I’m gonna leave a general response here not replying to any individual post, but people on this sub are getting super toxic. There’s a consensus of “shilling shit coins to dump my bag” which I find kind of ridiculous. First off, it’s an article from Motley Fool, not a direct post from Joe Schmoe. Second it’s about ETH for cryin’ out loud, not some dog fart token. And finally. what _can_ you post on this sub without getting roasted? Apparently every post is shilling a shit coin, hopium, or FUD. There’s very little room for actual discussion anymore. Anyway good luck out there.

russbird

I’m gonna leave a general response here not replying to any individual post, but people on this sub are getting super toxic. There’s a consensus of “shilling shit coins to dump my bag” which I find kind of ridiculous. First off, it’s an article from Motley Fool, not a direct post from Joe Schmoe. Second it’s about ETH for cryin’ out loud, not some dog fart token. And finally. what _can_ you post on this sub without getting roasted? Apparently every post is shilling a shit coin, hopium, or FUD. There’s very little room for actual discussion anymore. Anyway good luck out there.

russbird

I’m gonna leave a general response here not replying to any individual post, but people on this sub are getting super toxic. There’s a consensus of “shilling shit coins to dump my bag” which I find kind of ridiculous. First off, it’s an article from Motley Fool, not a direct post from Joe Schmoe. Second it’s about ETH for cryin’ out loud, not some dog fart token. And finally. what _can_ you post on this sub without getting roasted? Apparently every post is shilling a shit coin, hopium, or FUD. There’s very little room for actual discussion anymore. Anyway good luck out there.

armantheparman

Loving the confidence ignorance Easy to rebut "slow". I already wrote about this, but thanks for your 2017 thoroughly debunked FUD. Learn... https://armantheparman.com/too-slow/

TopAlert2383

All this FUD and we will see a new ATH in price soon. We already saw one for market cap.

grajnapc

Unfortunately I became impatient and didn’t hold long enough, selling at around 30k. It doesn’t happen often and takes discipline but it can work if you have the mindset and confidence to wait for big drops and go all in when the sky is falling and then hold until your target is met. Not easy, actually easy, but hard to pull off due to emotions FUD etc

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

They’re not. I just find it funny that a lot of the Binance “FUD” rumors, and then some, turned out to be true.

Calm-Professional103

Imagine the FUD from the TradFi media: “Bitcoin disappears! Returns as  Satoshis worth less than a penny!”  

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jpcmr

Honest question, do you trust Justin sun? Do you think he'll be the next Do Kwon/sbf? Or is it just FUD?

Foreign-Duck-4892

Unsubscribed from all bearish Youtubers. They do nothing but keep price down and spread FUD in the midst of a bear market. Data Dash has been bearish all last summer and all through to March 2024 rally. He and his followers missed out hard. He stopped being bearish for a moment because it kept going up but now started being bearish again. Truly pathetic performance. He is simply just constantly being wrong.

StockMarketMike

This. When you hear FUD, it signals the opposite. Classic mis-direction buying plan.

mrpotatonutz

I knew something was fishy when JPM was throwing FUD last month

CitizenToxie2014

I bought the 61k dip last week but I'm currently paying off a cc balance while all this regulatory FUD is happening in the US. But ya know what, I'll probably end up still dca'ing if it dips to $57k

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

Remember r/cc back when anytime someone had something critical to say about Binance, there would be 8-10 Binance Protectoors who would swoop in to defend their favorite CEX’s name with comments such as, “If you’re at the top, there’s always going to be haters” and unironically saying “4”. Every rumor would automatically be dismissed as FUD, becuz “I trust CZ”. Fast forward a couple years later and it’s revealed that not only was damn near every rumor circulating around that time true, but Binance was facilitating large scale fraud and money laundering with Russia and terrorist groups and sooo much more shady shit that even Binance haters would have never expected lol. With 70% of total trading volume coming from shady “VIP” clients lmao. Never change r/cc, never change. Lmao.

juez_y_verdugo

I am just starting with bitcoin and I have a lots of questions... I think is better to be able to understand and to ask question to the "comunity" no? where should i go to ask if i have doubt? what should i answer to my friends when they have any question about bitcoin? should i answer "sorry no FUD here man... you must to buy and do not ask me question. " ? if here is not the place, where should i ask then? thank you for your time. best regrds.

only_merit

> who knows, once we got an artificial superinterligence, everything is possible I guess and that is exactly what FUD is - Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt - it's a message that invokes these feelings While it is quite unreasonable to fear about these things at the time, FUD messages make it look like it's something we should worry about. Similarly the fears that it's not going to be reasonably easy to access the network are quite unsupported. Sure, there could be global blackout and half of the population could die ... sure ... it's not impossible, but is it something to fear?

R4ID

"guy who gets caught making stuff up about XRP continues to FUD" https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1bvmrnj/ripple_to_launch_us_dollar_stablecoin_aims_to/ky1puy9/?context=3

one_way_ticketz

Ridiculous amount of FUD rn.

only_merit

Well it's not only FUD, it's also false. First, we do not know if QC of that power are even viable to exist. That is still an open question. Then, let's assume that this question is resolved positively, that is that someone at some point finds a way to create such a powerful QC that could produce the signature without having the private key. Advancements like this do not happen over night. Computers of all kinds are incrementally improved and since we are talking about many orders of magnitude, we would first hear about QC being able to break weaker forms of cryptography long before there would be one strong enough to break ECC used in Bitcoin. What that means that we would have enough time to apply a softfork to introduce quantum resistant schemes to protect the coins. And while there is a separate problem with coins that would not upgrade (e.g. lost coins), there have already been discussed schemes based on zero knowledge proofs of having the correct seed that would protect even those coins with a softfork. It's not 100%, but it's close enough. So for all active users, QC will be non-issue, i.e. Bitcoin is safe. For some of unupgraded/lost coins, the attacker could possible spend them and create a temporary disruption of the market, not unlike we've seen with MtGox, FTX and others. And yet, Bitcoin always recovered from this in somewhat short time. Arguably, Bitcoin is more safe than physical gold as it is very hard to move the gold, so you are often stuck to a location, or have a great risk of losing it. And since nation states are arbitrary about changes in their laws, this property makes gold quite insecure for the future in many places in the world including US and EU.

High4zFck

agree, the first episodes are really good but bitcoin being vulnerable to quantum computers isn’t FUD, that’s just something most ppl don’t want to hear… someone explained it quite well in another post few days back I’m not saying that bitcoin isn’t safe, but it’s simply not that safe as physical gold or silver which you can store in a safe and don’t need a network connection to be able to access it

wooly_torch

Let this comment bring life to the dead daily. As each word streams in sequence to the next, here is some anecdotal TA suggesting patterns meaning future premonitions. Let us ponder these considerations and then FUD the bulls and vice versa until no one knows, except for some people to themselves. Sometimes, these patterns come true, which holds this cycle of chaos in a stasis of golden spirals unfolding into the metaverse. Now, let us DCA the dip with our last loan. Sell your clothes. Sell your plasma. Sell your legs. Sell your arms. Roll into the next era of crypto as a cyborg from the wretches of Ahnk the Unforsaken, Eater of Bears. Anyways, that’s it.

Jumpy_Conference_576

all the FUD is getting annoying af, ''ooo but previous cycle doesn't mean it'll happen again !!'' then why are u here ? people have been saying that there will be a post-halving dip for the last few months, now that it's happening, as expected/predicted, suddenly u can't make predictions anymore and everything's over. ''yh but u never know !! just cuz the sun rises every morning doesnt means it jsfjsbef lnskl blsbg \*foams at mouth\*!!!'' should we all just die then ? why bother doing anything ever, because there's a chance one day it'll be different

Anzu_Yamasaki

FUD

YouKhanSeeMe

100m in the next week in possible. 100m ATH for the cycle is complete FUD and would be a massive massive failure that I can’t see happening with the huge buying pressure and people eating up any dips.

MrSmiley3

1. The daily would never not be pinned 2. Keep calm and don’t give into FUD

lukekibs

It’d sure be nice if we could put a stop to all of the unnecessary FUD that’s been posted on here recently ..

Capitalize87

It will never happen because the same would have to be implemented for losses as well. It's just FUD

John_Crypto_Rambo

My only sauce is times this has happened before. Massive FUD campaigns do nothing to the price and then it pops upwards.

_BannedAcctSpeedrun_

Might as well tell people to buy gold or something. If we're talking long term, I think there are many options currently that will work out better than someone buying a little bit of bitcoin and holding it for years. Yeah there's a risk. There was also a risk back when I first start buying bitcoin with constant news about banks hating it, the idea it was used only for illegal reasons, and congress wanting to ban it and stuff like that. FUD was literally everywhere, it almost seemed dumb to invest in at the time, yet here we are with some guy suggesting I'm dumb for saying most people are too late buying into bitcoin unless they can afford whole ones and would have better luck diversifying alt coins that already have a good track record and waiting a few years as the crypto scene slowly blows up.

verysillyman

Isn’t it funny how FUD likes to come out right when things are already shaky in the market to really make a statement to all the “hucksters and fraudsters” that hold crypto…

CryptoKeeper808

Learn the tax code before posting something like this! Otherwise ur just spreading FUD.

DontHitTurtles

Robinhood has actually become an outstanding exchange with tons of useful features. The hate you hear all started back a few years ago when they had to pause trading for gamestop during the squeeze. At that time there were tons of people who had no clue about investing and didn't understand that this is a normal thing in the market when something is breaking like that. Several exchanges had to pause that day, but RH got the crap for it because most new investors were there. Most of the other things you hear about Robinhood like their payment for order flow (common and normal practice for most exchanges) are just FUD that started at the same time and come from people who don't know what they are talking about.

Fakir333

Yes I'm still surprised, having all the prior knowledge and knowing how cycles (not just crypto but add global liquidity cycle and Wycoff lining up near perfect with halving cycles) how hard human nature pulls you against it. Fear, greed, FUD, and FOMO still overpower most. You literally have to just trade opposite human nature. Not as easy as it sounds if you have enough decimal places involved it gets emotional. ... good thing I'm dead inside now lol.

UrU_AnnA

I did some maths and here is what I found out about your story in order of magnitude : ∞ > Future Bitcoin market cap > worldwide IQ > Real Gold market cap > your IQ > your FUD > Nobel Price > 0 > Paul Krugman

Corbimos

FUD

el_rico_pavo_real

That’s pretty much this sub’s MO lol. “I have this thought that causes me FUD and i’m sure none of the world class computer scientists, economists, mathematicians and cryptographers have thought of it before.”

The_Realist01

Thank you - must’ve been some FUD I heard 2-3 years ago and took at face value. Appreciate the comment.

Kingmendicant

It could also be the bottom of that cone. But I took a picture of your comment. While not unique, as it is just another in a million examples of FUD, I doubt it will play well in time and your name fit so perfectly. As for me, I was able to get some at $57.1k…. Truly lucky timing, but everything else I bought was less than that. It may drop again, but we will only be so lucky to see the 50’s again. Best of luck!!

KPTA-IRON

Dude what do you mean ledger decides to steal your bitcoin? Do you understand how the blockchain works and that your wallet is not with ledger, but within the blockchain? Not only that how would ledger specifically target you? Or do they rug everyone at once? Regardless this makes zero sense. And even though I don’t agree with Recover that is just big FUD from people that don’t know better. Follow all protocols when it comes to protecting your seeds etc and you’re fine. Not worth wasting your energy thinking like that.

Grunblau

Yup. I feel like the next super FUD is ETH being considered a security.

Elusive_BTC

I'm pissed. Woke up this morning and btc was at 59k. Figured to hold out to buy more since maybe prices would hopefully drop lower today. Got busy with work. Then checked btc price was WTF? Its up 62k+. I did buy the dip earlier this week but was looking to stack more base on lower price. Well maybe FUD will come out this weekend to drop the price down.. As Bogdanoff brothers would say 'Dump it'

ContemptForFiat

Bitcoin maxi casts FUD on ETH etf?! I DONT BUY IT

Mirved

And because Jed sold for years on end and Ripple still does the price is low so what is FUD about that.

highlite

The biggest Bitcoin maxi on the planet spreads FUD about other coins that are not Bitcoin? SHOCKING

TheBigLR901

Or not go to jail, or have your property confiscated by not paying taxes. What if there was an alternative to govmit money? Now we know why the FUD from these wacko MMT clowns.

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Mental_Platform_5680

Dang the FUD is high today have to counter it…something like uhh, inflationary practices considered the norm by world governments are pushing global retail investors to seek a safe haven in cryptocurrency such as bitcoin and ETH.

Cryptoenailer

FUD to keep prices low so they can scoop up what they can

el_rico_pavo_real

Was talking to a buddy and we came to this conclusion: We are either right, and Bitcoin is the only way to preserve our economic energy for generations, or we are wrong and we end up stuck in the same fiat prison. Not having meaningful exposure to Bitcoin because of FUD is simply not an option.

PositiveUse

Bitcoin max spreads ETH FUD… Shocking!

CloudSliceCake

FUD /s

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ForthInLine

The term 'could' is not a prediction. The Bitcoin market is dominated by ignorant children, boomers, and Chinese scammers. As long as Chinese scammers maintain the hype and reverse psychology vs FUD, ignorant people are going keep buying up all the shitcoins - Bitcoin, meme coins, DeFi and platform tokens. In America, the election in November isn't just a presidential election, it's also a congressional election. No matter who gets elected president, I'm hoping that a bunch of anti-crypto legislators and agency heads get replaced with crypto-friendly people. It probably won't lead to adoption, but crypto isn't going anywhere. It only ever steps forward.

Redac07

So when btc was 20k in 2022 (around half of now) miners were capitulating too right? Right? Or whatever is happening is just the market finding its way and this is just some bullshit FUD article that can safely be ignored?

iliveinapancake

Glad I scooped some AERO.. I knew all the FUD going around really meant BUY NOW

biba8163

It's not a scam it's FUD. He's truly embraced the scammer lingo.

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JynsRealityIsBroken

This is just completely untrue FUD-mongering. The DTCC cannot stop hedge funds from leveraging their portfolios in alternative means. Swaps, for instance, would allow for leveraged positions. They could go to a bank and take out a loan with their equity as collateral. That's not the same as margin. They could create a basket with the etf in it and get leverage on that. That would be kind of like the 2008 method. Yeah you can't get an options contract or use broker margin to buy it, but those are not even remotely all the levers a hedge fund can pull to get leverage. *All this is doing is blocking RETAIL from getting leverage.*

conceiv3d-in-lib3rty

You don’t know if Tether is fully backed, or what shady past history they want to keep sealed, you’re merely assuming they are because nobody but Tether knows. For the past 8 years, they’ve outright refused to do a legitimate full 3rd party audit and not some bullshit “moment in time” snapshot assertation, with god only knows what numbers have been manipulated directly before the snapshot is taken.. 1 full audit and then all the FUD and accusations go poof and disappears. There’s an obvious reason for this and it’s not the bullshit excuse they’ve been giving for the past 4+ years that, “but, but nobody will do an audit for us”. You know, just one of the most profitable companies on planet Earth. They also could care less due to the fact they’re making ridiculous amounts of money without an audit anyway. For what it’s worth, I actually believe Tether is fully backed and has likely been pushing extremely hard these past couple years to legitimize their business and clean house. They know this is essential for longevity. But I have also have absolutely no doubt that one of the reasons Tether was able to rise up to the giant it is today was by doing incredibly shady, illegal shit throughout its existence. Which is why they are still refusing a full audit. There’s more than enough examples of this against Tether throughout the years for me to believe it to be true. (directly funding the FTX ponzi, giving SBF keys to the money printer, $33b USDT created and then unaccounted for with Alameda, 2017 bullrun market manipulation and the propping up of the price of BTC, knowingly washing money for the Mexican cartel, etc, etc)

Dont_Waver

"These are facts, not FUD" A tinfoil conspiracy theory that the FED wants to cut rates so bad (even in the face of worse than expected inflation numbers), but they won't cut rates because of the elections.

OldTimez

I don't like Tether as much as the next guy but considering the FUD around them has been happening since 2014 and they've outlasted basically everything in the crypto market I think that has to count for something. God remembering the fud back in the day around Silk Road, old times.

jacd03

Where did i imply BTC is dead? im still 50% BTC as of right now, all i am saying is we wont see any relevant movement for at least 3-6 months until economic data gives the FED what they want, so they can cut. These are facts, not FUD.

Fabulous_Park_9419

Denial is a dangerous human quality. This will be the largest rug pull in history and you’ll go down swinging every step of the way. BR and V teamed with Grayscale started the pull at 70 and they will take you all the way back down to sub 30s…I’m sorry but this is facts. Read dudes manifesto. They were buying months before they publicly announced interest in an ETF. With the in your face despite all the facts under your nose denial you folks show in your unwavering dedication to a digital asset with zero intrinsic value…you’ll do it again at 30 and call it DCA. Then they’ll sell their other half and see you at 20. Of you’re reading this, it’s not FUD, it’s logic. If you’re reading this, take your hopefully minimal losses and do your future a favor.

ZenOfFool

The bitcoin market is highly sensitive to sentiment and news. Currently the whole market as a macro there's a lot of uncertainty. Lots of FUD and overall general feeling of fear. Best time to buy is when there's fear in the streets.

vcoronel127

I couldn’t agree more. Just keep stackin and ignore the FUD.

CaptainDr

we need a heroic whale to come in and buy up all this FUD so we get mad FOMO after FOMC

olduvai_man

SEC FUD has been around for years and it never materializes to the downside.

Interesting_Ebb9052

LOL! A little bit of normal volatility during the preparation phase of the next bullrun and all those paper handed newbies come around with FUD POSTS and disbelief! Sell you sats and buy the S&P500 stock which also struggles hard at the moment! But don’t spread your fear on all the others in this sub.. thanks

Brandon-Heato

ok…so you’re comparing global catastrophes to FUD on a 13% dip. seems reasonable.

vnielz

These FUD posts make me indicate that we're getting closer to the bottom.

theprincessofwhales

Bitcoin has become a market indicator. People use it to measure FUD. FUD is high on FED speak day. j pow counted his inflation chickens before they hatched and found out its stickier than they thought. Traditional market indicators likes jobs and cps are completely manufactured at this point. Enter bitcoin. Especially now with the ETFs and traders all having a btc indicator with which they are familiar.

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Powerful-Speech4243

Classic FUD OP is vastly uninformed. Blockchain has millions of ways to be implemented in real-world situations. NFTs alone have the potential to modernize 100s of different sectors eg. government documentation, educational credentials, online identities, gaming etc. NFTs are already being used for postage in some European countries.

beats_time

Same here. Why the hell not, I’ll bet institutions are filling bags as we speak, and some retail crack to the pressure of orchestrated FUD. Be greedy!!

TheFlamingoPower

It is important that he is not damaged if the value falls. But I think the price of ETH will only go up if we look at the long term. Also, since it's not a big money, and the turnover on eth won't be big, I would have taken a risk with meme FUD, for example, the first on Sui, theirs, or Black Rock on Base... somehow a good potential jump of 100x solves everything. This is how I work with a smaller part of the portfolio, and Pepe already paid off for me 2 months ago.

JusB_REAL

FUD 💩

purplecowz

FUD. Hong Kong ETF was a nothing burger. Stock market is down and people are scared of the Fed which is speaking today about inflation and lending rates.

person-ontheinternet

A pawn for FUD